Only ever seen two episodes of it, charicter didn't strike me as very interesting.

 

this

 

  You and me both.

 

Primus and unicorn are brothers

 

Not in the G1 cartoon.

 

Save your fingers, daitarn red doesn't read people's posts. He reads the title, then posts the "answer" to it. Its all he ever does.

 

Battle Unicorn?  

 

 


As far as the origin goes I'm with Sto here. like it or not, it happened. Personally I don't like and refuse to accept that Unicron was the creation of some alien dwarf nerd, but it is how it occurred in the G1 cartoon an that cannot be questioned.

 

Ahh thanks.

Thank you.

 

How about..Primacron is actually the 'agent' of gods who were supposed to create Unicron in the comics? Win-win situation here.Well,never read the comics but I'm one who would never defy the original G1 cartoon.lol

 

Well, I've noted previously that that origin is too prosaic for my liking, ie: "some folks built them a long time ago".

Yeah, great origin. If Star wars can have mystical mumbo-jumbo like the Force, Transformers can have deities. They're both pretty much space opera, after all.

- Coeloptera

 

And this is why I have always loved the Quint's storyline. While I don't hate a god creating the transformers, I like the idea that something that was simply built as a factory robot took life and felt the need to rebel. More serious Science Fiction movie and stories begin with this premise, and it gives the Transformers and almost sad story. "Why would you struggle to become aware and defend yourself from oppressive organics, only to turn against eachother when you win the freedom?"

I am a 100% supporter of Quints. It came first and it intrigued me even as a kid, that these robots I thought were self aware from the beginning of time, began their lives as mindless machines.

I've always stated that Transformers was the movie "The Matrix" in reverse. We were the Quintensons and the Robots in the Matrix mearly defended themselves from us.

So the word "The Matrix" wasn't the only thing somewhat borrow from Transformers.

 

when i saw unicron is the 1986 movie i thought he was just badass the greatest transformer ever. In season three i thought they ruined unicron with that space moneky buliding him. The gods origin is much better thsn the story of his origin in the cartoon. I still love Unicron though.

 

I don't see how monkey dude is any worse than the Guardians or those brainy dudes in the pilot of Star Trek.

Midichlorians.

 

This. For the love of God yes!

According to Hasbro, there's only ONE Unicron, and he goes from reality to reality getting new bodies as needed...

 

I liked the irony of the Cartoon's explanation. How such a puny, fragile being made the most devastating force in the Universe. Saying "Oh, he's just a God" is basically the same as the "magic" excuse.

 

Ha!

Too bad SW itself can't actually agree on how that garbage works.

Midi-chlorian - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki

It's apparently still actually mystical mumbo jumbo.

I believe the vague, mystical element in Transformers is somewhat necessary for the particular reason that the concept of sparks has gained more of a foothold in the various continuities.

I mean from what we've seen, a spark is basically a soul with the serial numbers filed off that one can unequivocally perceive.

- Coeloptera

 

Some things are more canon than others though. Primacron is an outdated concept used in only one source and then completely rejected by everything else that came later.

I'm sure the cartoon writers would have adopted the Primus route had the Marvel comics with him in had been released before they decided to give Unicron a backstory.

 

Give this man a cigar. Give him many cigars. I don't really understand how Unicron being a god is an origin story. Calling him a god is giving him a title, not explaining where he came from. The whole gods and sparks thing is a large part of my lack of interest in most TF shows.

 

That's because you're a souless, sparkless curmugeon who refuses to buy decent armor for your classics Ultra Magnusesseses.   Don't ask me how those two points (?) are related, because they're not.

On topic, I don't mind the 'god' explanation. Not every origin has to made explicit IMO. If you say he was created by something else, then you're only delaying the question when you have to ask: 'Then who created the something else that created Unicron?' But then, I'm one of those simpletons who tends to take things at face value much of the time. Go ahead, tell me that's stupid! I accept that.

I liked the idea of Unicron being a dimension-spanning entity that reformed after being destroyed, and I thought the 'dead universe' in the 'Devastation' storyline was going to wind up being a dimension previously destroyed by him.
Too bad the whole story went to shit and I lost all interest in reading any more of it.