Bumblebee: The Movie To Become The Focal Point Of Transformers Brand Blueprint This Christmas

siccoyote · Feb 14, 2018

ZapRowsdower said: ↑

But any time you put a girl character in the forefront of a cartoon show, it's to appeal to the female audience.
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Agreed.

Though most fangirls of Transformers seem more interested in Starscream.

deathzero23 · Feb 14, 2018

Well I feel this also as PR thing.
To say, "Hey the next TF film will be a lot better. Just keep buying the toys and you will be fine."
Lolz..

NominusDP · Feb 14, 2018

siccoyote said: ↑

Agreed.

Though most fangirls of Transformers seem more interested in Starscream.
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Freaking true tbh

NominusDP · Feb 14, 2018

ZapRowsdower said: ↑

It's amazing how he's managed to waste so many minutes without saying anything at all!

Seriously, how does "CHANGE" occur when you do things... almost exactly the same???? I mean, look at the facts: RB gets replaced! (with RB Academy! Whoops!). RID gets replaced! (with a similar kiddy program, Cyberverse!). And no more Bay TFs!!! OH NOES! (except that the BB movie is using the exact same robot designs, and most likely a similar enough style to not turn away the Bay fans ). So mostly, this is worthless blustering meant to impress the average shareholder who doesn't know anything about this stuff (i.e. horrible car salesman BS!).

The Evergreen is a good idea for licensing, because I imagine some disadvantage when you're making a product that covers one of the THREE types of TF programming. It's a shame, for example, if your RID product can't appeal to movie fans or RB fans (and maybe Evergreen packaging would alleviate some of that loss).

Goldner, once again, avoids directly talking about TF Movie toy sales, which pretty much answers your suspicions in the positive: YES, the toys sold badly; he would tell you otherwise, directly, if not. And beside any need for a corporate confirmation, the majority of fans (in various geographic locations) can attest to not finding specific toys (i.e. Cogman), and how Wave 1 sold terribly EVERYWHERE (because it was all repaints/re-issues).

Hasbro looks, from this earnings call, to be somewhat risk averse. For example, they could plan for a complete movie re-launch (should the BB movie fail), but there seems to be no mention of contingencies for this. I can only assume they have SOME plan, but I suspect they are running against the wall with these horrible Bay movies. The sharp decline in box office kind of points to a "fad" success story, more than something that will perpetuate in future pop culture - at least, I've always felt the forgettable plot, horrible characterization, awful battle cinematography, etc. would stop being so new and shiny eventually... And I mean all of this with great respect: for the TF brand, NOT Bay's bastardization. Bay, himself, has a really spotty career (outside of the TF franchise), and I sincerely doubt his name will ever reach the heights it did without the TF brand (he's had a lot of flops outside of TF). That should mean something to Paramount AND Hasbro, but unfortunately, they seemed to ignore the writing on the wall, and TF4 failed exactly because it was the same type of movie already made 3 times before!

Anyway, this movie stuff is worth complaining about because bad decisions here can tank the TF franchise (especially when Hasbro refuses to really embrace the retro G1 appeal - where's the new G1 cartoon? G1 morie?). Rather than run away from their past success, I think Hasbro should go back to its G1 roots (or even BW!).

Windblade is a girl. Girls are buying more toys than boys. This is really a gender appeal, not a character appeal - although male fans like her, too! But any time you put a girl character in the forefront of a cartoon show, it's to appeal to the female audience. And like I said, girls buy more toys now, so WB could easily usher us into a female-exclusive team and/or cartoon (in the future). I think it's a good idea to do NOW... but Hasbro being old fashioned (i.e. "Boy toys" and "Girl Toys"), this is something that may yet take some time (or brand hemorrhaging) before it comes to fruition.
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I love everything you wrote tbh
Couldn't have said it better myself

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