If Bay gonna direct all these upcoming Transformers films in three years, then the guy will burn out and the quality will be worsen than what it already is. And this time the TF franchise is facing fierce competition from DC, Marvel and other big franchises.

This time Paramount is going to meet the consequences of hiring Bay and I'll be happy if one of the films flops.

 

Honestly, the yearly production schedule basically guarantees that it'll have a different director. For better or worse. Whoever gets the project will also no doubt be paid much less too.

 

A movie like District 9 was lower budget because much of the work was done by mid-level studios that were just coming into their prime. They were certainly capable of high quality work, as evidenced by the end result, but they were a cheaper alternative to the more main-stream studios. There also wasn't a ton of variation in CG elements that needed to be generated, at least when compared to Transformers. Building a prototype prawn in District 9 and using it to build all the others was efficient, where as many of the Transformers characters had to be treated as special designs.

I would assume that when they say "lower budget" they are speaking more specifically in relation to their other movies, and not a film like Deadpool, because those films paid blockbuster rates for their production. Saying lower budget could simply mean that they aren't giving the work to top-shelf studios, like Industrial Light & Magic.

Finally, this is my first post. I've been lurking for a while, and it feels good to say hi!  

 

It doesn't matter which studio they use for the movie, CGI is still cheaper. I think this budget title will simply mean less practical effects.

 

Riiiiiiight.

Because it's not like Stinger being blatantly a duplicated Bumblebee painted red wasn't outright pointed out by the film itself or anything.

...which goes right into my point that not-ILM tier animation studios aren't going to require nearly as much money in the budget.

 

Even if it is ILM, it'll be cheaper without the practical effects! Why does nobody listen to me?!

 

Makes sense. It's a spin-off about Bumblebee. Freakin' Bumblebee...

 

Okay, that's a fair example. Any other obvious ones?

And I agree with your last point!

 

given the production timeframe he doesnt have the time to do the Bumblebee spin off, because the Bumblebee Spin Off would have to start filming, around the same time Bay is doing Post-Production on TF5.

also he cant film all 3 films back to back, because if that was the case, They would have to delay TF5 to 2018 in order to give him time to film all 3 movies, since filming all 3 movies back to back would require a 2 Year Production Schedule. look at Avengers 3, thats gonna spilt into 2 parts, they are going to start filming this year, and they will end filming next year, so Avengers is being given a 2 year productino schedule due to them filming both back to back, Bay only has the timeframe to work on 5. (he could still do 6, but not the Bumblebee spin off)

 

the running time of these movies is the very least of their problems. i don't mind a long movie, just as long as it's good.

if i'm remembering correctly, stinger and bumblebee being almost identical was a story point.

but still, he's right, while there are examples in transformers movies, district 9 used the same basic design for just about all of the creatures. in the transformers movies there were a whole bunch of completely different designs used.

to me, someone unfamiliar with how the pricing of these things truly works, i'd assume that creating a whole bunch of different robots from scratch is much more expensive than creating one basic design and making small changes to it.

i really hope that this franchise stops being the laughing stock of the genre. it's a shame. but, i think it's going to continue. especially when you get up into 5, 6, and 7.. even the numbers make it sound like some bad syfy channel movie.

a reboot would've been so much wiser. wipe the slate clean.. invest in creating a proper universe.

grindor/blackout.

 

That's why I said the movie outright pointed it out - being a plot point or not doesn't change the fact it was a clear reuse of BB's robot form (made even more convinient since they didn't even need to explain why the alt. mode differs since Transformium made animating complex transformations unnecessary beyond making metal cubes fly around)

And then re-used. Clonecrusher, every single constructicon who didn't die underwater, hell even the concept of protoforms streamlined making Decepticon hordes.

You mentioned Blackout/Grindor but apparently they modified Blackout's model enough to warrant the alt. mode as a different version of that helicopter, or all the arguments on the boards at the time have left that impression on me.

While true...this thread is about a Bumblebee focus film. They've made like, ten versions of his CGI model at this point, the design process shouldn't be as taxing here  

I think that Mr. Robot show made a joke about how bad the TF films are regarded when the main character hacked into his childhood friend's boyfriend's facebook and among the list of favorite films (all of which were bad), the only one he focuses on as justification of hating the guy's sense of taste is...Transformers Revenge of the Fallen.

I couldn't agree more - AoE was unnecessary and only highlighted the problem of deciding to just arbitrarily declare all Decepticons dead (Galvatron doesn't count because he's Megatron resurected again which completely made his entire arc in DOTM pointless) and instead try to sub-in some...vague concept as being the new enemy without actually bothering to detail anything about them.

Seriously, The Creators are about the dumbest thing in the franchise in my opinion and they're probably just Quints anyway, so all this secretive nonsense is pointless.

 

Bumblebee Movie

I think if they just at least consider a flashback on how BB became an autobot warrior from a scout/messenger, first met Optimus (Fall of Cybertron source) and how he lost his voicebax and it is all set on Cybertron, I think we have a very interesting storyline rather than just placing BB on earth with a random side story.

 

Can Bumblebee just GO AWAY already?

 

The fact that these movies keep getting made is a good argument against existence of God.

And what, pray tell, will warm up the shelves, hmmm?

 

Still waiting for the day the Transformers movie franchise will be taken serious. My favorite characters and storyline turned into a complete cluster fuck. I feel like I live in Bizarro world where crap movies make a lot of money.

 

And crap comics! *ducks*

 

By the time all of the Marvel, DC, Star Wars and Transformers movies are done, I'll be close to 60. Not really but damn. I'll be close to 60 for the reboots.

 

A surprisingly cautious move for a studio willing to commit to a raft of films to be released over the better part of a decade.

 

All I can say is that Bumblebee better TALK, with a real voice and not movie/radio voice-clips strung-together if this spin-off movie is ever made. Why not get Dan Gilvezan a shot, instead of some famous celebrity pretty-boy? At least give him a cameo.

Perhaps exploring a Cybertronian back-story would be an interesting angle, instead of Bumblebee teaming up with some stupid teen on Earth. That might be better. A less human-centered story would be so much more interesting. We already know about how teen-aged guys love "hot chicks 'n fast cars & 'splosions" , which was done ad nauseam in all the previous films. Unfortunately, that's what we're bound to get, again....