Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by StarscreamtheMovie, Dec 8, 2018.
Let's keep on topic about the Bumblebee movie, guys.
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I finally saw this movie after getting it for my dad for Father's Day.
After all this time with only the Bay Saga, this movie is a breath of fresh air. The human characters are likable! The villains have personality! The story is coherent and consistent, the action scenes are well-choreographed and clear, it's just all around a great movie. I've been waiting so long to be able to say that about a Transformers film.
Pretty much a perfect list.
Finally saw Bumblebee for the first time this weekend, and I must admit this was the "good" TF movie we've all been waiting for. While there were many things that kept it from being outright "great", I more than appreciate Travis Knight & Co. for rescuing us from the dreck that Bay had plunged the franchise into.
-loved loved LOVED the G1 inspired scenes on Cybertron. I am unapologetically a G1 fan from the very beginning and could've sat thru an entire film built around this. So continuing that thought...
-at no point did I ever lose track of the action. Can't believe we ever bought into the notion that G1-based designs were "too boxy" for modern day live action, this right here is the perfect middle ground. Was never confused or felt like I was watching a mish-mash of twisted metal during fight scenes (unlike all the past TF films)
-the Charlie/Bee relationship was great and worked really well
-Hailee Steinfeld is a more than capable lead, has shown she has "it" from her prior work (True Grit, Pitch Perfect franchise)
-lingered a tad too much on the Charlie/high school stuff, and those parts really dragged things down tbh
-didn't follow the press releases, so was also confused with whole "reboot or prequel?" All the items that connected to the Bay movies (Bee's voice loss, Camaro mode, S7/Agent Simmons) made things even more confusing. Err...first contact with Non-Biologicals? What about Megatron whom you have on ice right now? <brain explodes> Better to not think about it, the old continuities also had majors inconsistencies to say the least.
-soundtrack toes the fine line between evoking the era in which the film takes place and beating you over the head with "Hey this movie takes place in this year! JUST MAKING SURE YOU KNOW!!" [see also: Captain Marvel]
-is that...an homage to the G1 intro when Jazz transforms and takes a run at Skywarp after getting tossed?! Awesome!
-the TF franchise seems to always benefit form downsizing the (robot) cast ie. Beast Wars, Animated, Prime, etc. to better re-focus and this here is no exception
Final score: 8/10
Took time actually watching the film not to long ago, This is my review what I could gather
Great design aspects, Beautiful shots of earth and cybertron.
Very inspired from War/Fall of cybertron, Of the opening sequence.
Soundwave sounded perfect. Jon Bailey really nailed him!.
Only liked a few designs, Which were, Soundwave, Optimus Prime, Blitzwing, Dropkick and Shatter. Other one's were kinda eh, Hopefully they plan to improve upon more.
Enjoyed Sector 7, John Cena's character is whom I liked the most within the cast.
Charlie/Bee's relationship was alright.
Actual Decepticon characteristics.
The action felt kinda rushed at times, But was good for the most part.
Blitzwing's death, His death was most displeasing. Blitzwing could've been Bee's new arch-enemy. But instead they get lazy and killing him off. Now I know why they did it. For the sake of budget. But if you plan on killing, At least make it more appealing. Most don't seem to bothered by it. But let's be real. In reality Blitzwing could've ripped out the missile out of his chest and fly away and appear later or so on. In the end, blitzwing felt like this main villain. But instead he was killed off in the most bullshit way as much as possible
Dropkick's death, Now most don't get bothered by it. But why it grinds my gears. Its simple I expected more a major fight considering this was the finale. But he dies by the chains?, I understand the reasoning of killing him off. But at least have him do something or at least trying manipulate Bee.
Charlie was decent, I much prefer Cade over all the human character's combined.
Charlie's life story and the whole school bit, felt to much. People have been wanting transformers film, And we almost had it. But instead we got a lot more human crap. Sector 7 is fine, But I felt they could've shown some of Charlie's life, But not overdose it.
Some designs of the G1 characters need more tweaks, I understand it's the sake of budget. But I think Arcee needs improvement upon her face, those eyes don't look well for me.
No Barricade, Now I know this film is a reboot, Quote on quote. But Barricade had gained his popularity of being known as much we know of Bumblebee. Either way, If Bumblebee 2 comes, I'd love to see Barricade make his appearance. Doesn't mean I hate the film because of this. Just wished Barricade was in the film.
Well, I have done my feedback and opinion on the film, I give it...
Great review, I agree with all your points, though I'd give it a lower overall score.
I feel like they could have had him survive and end up in stasis, but unlike Bee his body is recovered by S7.
Then Dropkick and Shatter discover him in S7 custody, and manipulate the humans into thinking he's another criminal and they'll need to take him in, secretly reviving him and letting him in on the plan. They stage his escape, allowing him to return during the climax and be part of the final battle after Dropkick is killed.
...Admittedly, this would probably make the plot more convoluted. I still enjoyed the movie as it was though.
I would've given it a lower score, But what made me enjoy the film overall, Was Shatter & Dropkick. But if I did wish to rescore my rating, I'd probably say 5/10
That could've been a huge plot point as you pointed out. Like I said, Blitzwing's death enraged me the most, I knew he died based of the trailer tv spots. But regardless, Killing off a decepticon that actually does damage and shown full might. That is weak plot for Blitzwing's part.
Yeah, that's about what I would rate it.
Seriously? He legit said “I will buy you some time.” The seekers were literally there and were going to go after the pods. He was a diversion. Clearly.
Probably the best TF movie since 1986.
I recently joined the transformers fandom before the bumblebee movies trailer released. I feel like this was my destiny.
It's basically my current favorite film, period.
the more i think about it, my biggest problem with bumblebee is that is just isn't on par with the films that inspired it. other than the fact that it has transformers the story doesn't really offer anything that films like et and the iron giant had, i feel it would be unrealistic for bee to top these films but i wish it was at least on par. these films have been a round for awhile and the world has had lots of time to learn from them and i feel bumblebee just doesn't have the same level of polish that the stories that inspired did. i don't think its terrible there are just lot they could improve in my opinion.
I don't think they should have even tried an ET type Transformer movie like this where the human is more or less protecting the Autobot. There may be exceptions, for example humans helping an injured Decepticon who then joins the Autobots when the other Decepticons endanger his new human friends. But dejavu doesn't allow for much character development other than as artificial personality switch.
I would be up for a single fully functioning Autobot teaming up with a human to accomplish a mission while staying hidden...
I think it would be cool if most of the film took place in the forest and was like cat and mouse with bee and blitzwing
Kind of like Predator? The only thing is I don't think there alt modes would have played into the story much.
yeah, didn't about that
Bumblebee started out as a Bayverse prequel, and part way through the filming Travis Knight turned it into something closer to what he really wanted (The TLK disaster helped) while retaining elements of the earlier version.
Bumblebee was the first live-action Transformers movie where I didn't come away a bit (or a lot) disappointed. For the first time it felt like the guys making the Transformers actually knew their Transformers. And I even liked the humans.
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