Bumblebee (briefly) talked in an extended ROTF scene

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  1. CorePrime

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    I have been looking for this clip forever and I finally found it. Well before ROTF hit theaters, the scene between Sam and Bumblebee in the garage was shown to select audiences at a tradeshow. Thing is, the scene is extended and Bee talks.

    Through the RADIO, Bee says to Sam "What-is-your-purpose" and then, through a strained Mark Ryan voices says "Sam." The word "Sam?" isn't through the radio; it's his real voice. His mouth actually moves here, too.

    Pretty cool, yeah?
     
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    Interesting, thanks for sharing! They cut it, because Sam thought that Bumblebee pretends that he can't speak. Maybe he was right, but if we would saw this, we wouldn't feel sorry for Bumblebee...
     
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    We were all pretty pissed when this wasn't in the movies, as the clip had been seen by about everyone online before the film hit. It goes a long way to explaining why after TF1 he suddenly couldn't talk again, as we actually hear his voice sound strained and weak. Obviously it's been long since established now that his voice just never recovered and the end of TF1 is largely ignored, but this brief scene helped show rather than tell us why he was once again mute.

    Also, can I just say how weird this scene is nowadays? An Autobot, in focus, having a prolonged conversation (however one-sided) with a human in clear view with functional, decently lengthed shots, where the information being exchaged is actually normal-sounding? When was the last time we even got a scene like this? It's sad that ROTF actually did anything better than the later films.
     
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    Cool. My favorite trailer of all the movies.
     
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    I think they're should be Special DVD releases with scenes like this included in the Movie. Maybe even that Leo scene. Paramount probably wouldn't they may have deleted the footage.
     
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    Did you not see the negotiation scene in TLK?
     
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    No offence, I think that scene was pretty dumb.

    Logically, Megatron had every reason to do things by force.
     
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    Too many quick cuts and not natural-sounding at all.
     
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    I remember this so well! I couldn’t find it either! This was the greatest sneak peek ever. Upon watching this I thought rotf was in fact going to be the greatest film ever! Then I watched it... but the trailers were so. Damn. Perfect!

    I still like rotf but man this takes me back to the greatest feeling of excitement
     
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    Actually ROTF did it twice, as the graveyard scene with Optimus is actually even a better example. Oh and one could also argue the Optimus meeting with Galloway was a decent conversation with robot and human.
     
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    I did, and it's a perfect example of what not to do.

    "Do I know you, human-I WANT MY CREW"

    "GIVE ME NAMES"

    It's like they cut out a conversation where Lennox maybe coyly denies knowing Megatron? (then again, Lennox hasn't met Megatron, so...) And then cut immediately to the "negotiation," as if Megatron had a mini-stroke and just forgot he even asked a question. It was awkward as hell. The rest of the negotiation wasn't even a conversation. Megatron just lists names, gets mad once, and says he wants to go home. All fo Lennox's dialogue is direct, sterile responses.

    This is true, but Optimus is often too formal. Granted, that's an example of a conversation with a deliberately non-casual tone, as he's usually just giving exposition. The graveyard scene is a good one, though, but once again Optimus is (by design so I don't really harp on it too much) at a clearly different level than Sam. As far as editing and pacing goes, though, yes, those are both superior to almost anything we've got since.
     
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    In your opinion. I thought it was fine.
     
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    I think the one credit I will give that scene is the line "To go home". Shows a little hint on Megatron's motivation.

    That was a glimmer of something.... But the scene nevertheless like SPLIT said the scene just jumps really quick from "Do I know you?" to "I want my crew". And no tension was felt either....

    Maybe the scene would do better if the setting was say.. A military base where guns would be pointed at Megatron instantaneously if he gets aggressive.
     
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    Yes, I agree it is a good scene but it fails to be what it should, for the reasons you and splitlip used.

    I enjoy the scene, but it is edited very goofy and abrupt. Especially the “do I know you human?Iwantmycrew”
    I just don’t know how you leave the “do I know you” line in if you’re cutting the Lennox reaction. It’s just weird
     
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    At 1.57 I also liked that conversation between Ironhide and Ratchet as brief as it was. It's one of the very few moments we saw Autobots having their worries and expressing their own insecurities to each other. It was also one of the more subtle scenes in my opinion. TF1 also had those but most of the time the camera was moving around so much and there was always a loud steve yablonsky score in the background, sometimes silence can improve a scene. The ironhide and ratchet had both of them in focus and the camera wasn't moving as much
     
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    ROTF is a brilliant very emotional film!
     
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    This scene was better than AOE and TLK combined.
     
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    It's a sad day we've arrived at, where we're feeling nostalgic and actually appreciative of ROTF of all things.

    Another way of someone saying "you're wrong because I liked it".

    Oh my god :lol 
     
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    No, it means I don't agree.