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Bumblebee Box Office Discussion

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Music, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. primal789

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    Nooooot cool!
     
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  2. Aernaroth

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    Setting aside that the current box office take is not indicative of what I would consider a 'flop' and that Paramount seems satisfied with the film's performance, what a flop would have meant is that this approach didn't work either, so they'd be in the same position if they wanted to continue the franchise: try a different approach.


    Rough. Still has full showtimes by me, though.
     
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  3. BigRed

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    Exactly, and for the record, I actualy DO think Bee movie will be ultimately profitable at this point (people keep forgetting streaming deals and home media and stuff exist after all).

    But at the end of the day, if you ask me if I trust Paramount's big wigs? Hardly. Specially now that they have a new leadership that wants to advertise itself, and specially now that we know they love to sugarcoat, twist and outright lie sometimes. Those guys care only about their own pockets, not the film franchises themselves.
     
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    Without a next Transformers movie in the works all Bumblebee really had to do was turn around public opinion. Going by the critical response, the positive articles written about the movie and the general positive buzz over the movie it seems likely Bumblebee was highly successful in showing that Transformers could be more than what we got with the Bay movies.

    That Bumblebee is showing a profit even before it finishes out it's theatrical run is just icing on the cake. With kids liking the movie it's sure do well when it pops up on disk and as a profitable movie it can only help whatever deals Paramount makes for the streaming release.

    Since it will be a while before we get another Transformers installment that gives Paramount time to figure out what they want to do next so who really knows when there are so many options open for them. What's really important here is that Bumblebee seems to have a left people wanting more Transformers instead of being like The Last Knight that made people feel like they were done with Transformers.
     
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    ...aaaaand i may have finally talked my wife into seeing it with me tonight, but she won't commit before she gets off work because she really wants to play assassin's creed...
     
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    just stop your're making a fool out of yourself
     
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    It's Box Office Mojo and such that I trust. Paramount just saying, "Yep, that's right, it's in the black," is nice, but secondary.
     
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  9. shockwave2005

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    I'm still waiting to see where you got your numbers and info that confirms that Bumblebee has flopped. Unless we see this, you sir, are a confirmed troll - and you've provided strong evidence of that, at least.
     
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  10. GrungeWerX

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    The difference lies in 3 major factors: Budget, Marketing Costs and Domestic Take. Domestic Take can offset the other two factors providing it does well and that success extends to the global market. But TLK failed because people failed to pay attention to AOE's (and previous films) steadily decreasing domestic take, which is a high-indicator of IP viability.
     
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  11. GrungeWerX

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    He may be a troll, but you are out of your mind if you think The Last Jedi made over a billion dollars in profit. Where in God's name are you getting your numbers? The Last Jedi made $1.3 billion. The production budget alone was +$300 million, to say nothing about the marketing costs. The domestic take was $620 million and the studio only gets a fraction of profits from the international gross, which was $696 million in total. So...where are you getting over a billion in profit? Do you know how profit works in the movie industry?

    Not trying to be an @$$, but if you want people to take you seriously, you have to get your figures even remotely close to reality. The real profit margin is closer to 400-500 million, depending on just how large the marketing costs were.

    The Force Awakens, on the other hand, made a KILLING at the box office, with over $900 million on the domestic take alone.
     
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  12. TheSoundwave

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    I'm glad Bumblebee ended up being profitable! Honestly, this is sort of what I expected to happen. A slow start (because people are rightfully wary after the other films), but once word of mouth gets around, more and more people will start to see it. I think I made that prediction a long while back.
     
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    $350 million was my initial prediction, so I co-sign this. The domestic daily numbers have dropped, and even with a slight boost from the Chinese box office (and Japan), it may only land between 350-370 million, but at this point, I doubt it will break the $400 million dollar wall. In the end, it will be profitable, but here's the real ringer:

    It will most likely finish behind The Last Knight on the domestic take, which continues the franchise's downward trend. This suggests one of two outcomes: Smaller-scale Transformers films or a complete reboot.
     
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    When taking into consideration licensing, merchandise, and dvd/Blu-ray sales TLJ indeed profited over a billion dollars. I’ll try and find the article and link it.
     
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    ...just got back from seeing bumblebee again, with my wife this time: she legitimately enjoyed it and the theatre is still full on weekend four!..i think a lot of folks who dismissed the franchise out of hand could have a change of heart if they see this one...

    ...also, it's nice to see that it holds up well to repeat viewings; it was a better film the second time through, but i still missed catching memo's gobots...
     
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  16. GrungeWerX

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    Okay, from that perspective, that's a little different. I thought you were discussing box office, not licensing and merchandising, which can go on for years. Still, that's comparing apples to oranges, and completely skews the argument; Disney is a merchandise engine and Star Wars is a successful merchandising franchise. They'll be selling The Last Jedi porgs after you and I both are dead. You can't use that as a method to factor in a film's success. That's not the metric by which film studios generally measure success and viability.

    That said, in the interests of educating myself, I'm totally open to seeing any official sources you have; please no random articles written by copy/paste bloggers re-citing Paul Dergarabedian's extremely vague statements or other such non-quantitative sources lacking actual data.
     
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    Took me till the third time to see the Go Bots. This movie really lends itself well to repeat viewings. It’ll do great on streaming, blu ray and whatever network gets the rights for it.
     
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  18. autobotsrollout

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    Up watching Steins gate 0 ......... then going to see Bumblebee again later........ If people love science fiction...... you cant go wrong with the bumblebee movie and the two Steins Gate anime's.

    box office mojo says almost 310 million........ probably still has a few weeks here in america... only 2nd weekend in china and still has Japan to open in. I think this movie will do somewhere close to 400 million .

    Looking at aquaman's box office........... its so effing depressing that the world eats up sh*t movies with nothing more than stunning overload of visuals. the movie was nice to look at but it was on par with Transformers 3........ just depressing that a really good movie like Bumblebee only makes a third of what the craprocket underwater movie made.
     
  19. Shockwavers

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    Well... the DCEU also had to recover from Justice League massively underperforming. And besides Bumblebee is doing perfectly fine for what it is. What I can tell you is that maybe Travis Knight and/or the marketing was a bit too humble compared to the in your face marketing of Aquaman.

    Humbleness has always been the greatest strengths of Travis Knight or Studio Laika
     
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  20. Dmhead

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    This is good news indeed, if what Paramount is true. That means we're getting at least the animated movie. But I think even though BB is profitable, they didn't earn a WHOLE lot of money, but just enough to move forward. So that in mind, they will use their time in planning on the next movie. Maybe in 2021 we will see what they have in store for us.