It doesn’t matter to me what his opinion is; he’s entitled to it. And this isn’t an anti BSF post either; just a disagreement with him on this matter. I personally don’t think it’s a lie. I differentiate between 4P and KO, in that 4P does things different with the ko, so that it’s not a straight ko. My favorite example is MO1 Commander. With its O/S and many improvements it is not a straight KO by any stretch of the imagination. Or even WJ’s Detective with its re-engineering. I have a straight KO of MP Sideswipe. That’s what I call a KO. But can we be real for a moment: what we call “3P” isn’t any more noble than KO- despite the fact that 3P does their own designing and engineering. It’s still ripping off HasTak. If anyone wanted to argue that 3P was also a ko, I don’t think I’d argue with them on it. And really, if BSF thinks 3P is better because they do their own work then I believe he should be more flexible toward 4P because they put additional work into improvements. I just find myself amused at BSF and his crusade against KO’s (which he is entitled to, don’t get me wrong) while touting the virtues of 3P... even tho it too is theft. From what I understand he sells art at Con’s... and he probably thinks there is a difference between drawing a superhero and tracing it... but unless he has the license to do so he’s just as guilty of wrong doing. I own it all, so I don’t care. I just want to be honest about it, that’s all.