Botcon 2014 Theme Revealed - Pirates vs Knights

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Mechafire, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. ACE STRIKER

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    For the first few months. They got rather old real quick. Lost interest before they started doing Beast Hunters. I had really had enough of them clogging up store shelves by that time. And now I'd say that I actually hate them now that there the only thing on the shelves and I can't find new Generations deluxe and voyager figures. But ya I think in 15 years they will be the flop of the franchise. BTW love the junkions.
     
  2. G.B. Blackrock

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    When did this happen? TakaraTomy-only molds have been used before with no apparent issue. Heck, we're getting Rumble/Frenzy as Rewind (and probably Eject) this year.
     
  3. mrduce1018

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    I agree, I don't think Japanese only molds were an issue other than their availability. I do not recall this being mentioned at the Round Table, at least not in recent years. Plus we are getting THRUSTINATOR!, which was also a Japanese only mold.
     
  4. PoweredConvoy

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    I think it's Japanese only molds that are not made with US safety standards in mind. So if it's something not made to comply with those US safety standards that Fun Pub would have to pay to get the molds adjusted for US safety laws.

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  5. x BlackMagnus x

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    Demolition Rumble was slated for a RTS release (IIRC there were/are packaged samples of him and his wavemate Road/Bodyblock (can't remember the exact name, the repaint of HFTD Hubcap) long before Takara put them in the United line. Hasbro used the mold first, which I would think makes it theirs.
     
  6. Ikkstakk

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    It would be good to get clarification on that. Club toys aren't sold to retailers or to the general population... and don't their boxes all say "adult collectible" on them? Do the safety laws apply?
     
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    The brown mailer boxes for the subscription figures don't (don't know if the bio card or instructions do or not), but the club exclusives did.

    SG Drift 02.jpg - Shattered Glass Drift - TFW2005.COM
     
  8. Primal Sabbath

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    Personally I don't think they should have to abide by safety laws. Like it's been said, these are "adult collectibles" and are labeled as such. So rounding any tips, or thickening up any plastic so it isn't a "choke hazard" is stupid.
     
  9. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    It would be a miracle if they did. I'm in love with the idea of Canonball from Breakdown so much, anything else will be a letdown.
     
  10. Primal Sabbath

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    The Official Transformers Collectors' Club

    I'd say they do... Not to mention the Arms Microns that are shipping with some of the FSS2.0.
     
  11. Primal Sabbath

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    So has anyone mentioned Dai Atlas from Generations Armada Starscream as a possible Knight yet? I was searching for any potential Digibashes of it (can't find any), but I think it could totally work.
     
  12. Ikkstakk

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    Well, if we're talking specifically about the Breakdown mold, I thought Hasbro said the reason they didn't bring it over was that it didn't fit their pricing structure; they couldn't sell it at the Voyager pricepoint. So as far as safety issues are concerned, I think it's on the table. Fingers remain crossed.

    That mold is probably too new to use this year. Next year.
     
  13. Thundershot

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    I'm pretty sure the reports were that it was the cost that was the problem.

    Wait, Aaron Archer is a member here again now. Maybe he can chime in...
     
  14. Primal Sabbath

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    I don't know. They used Dreadwing's mold pretty quickly after it was released. Who's not to say they had access to it? Unfortunately we won't know anything until they let us know... So one could only hope.

    Yeah, it was the cost of the mold which is why they didn't bring it over. Nothing to do with safety standards, or at least none that I recall.
     
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    Aarcher is actually Aaron Archer?
     
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    Insane Galvatron is not insane. Really!

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    AArcher seemed to imply he was Aaron Archer in another thread, but the location doesn't match up. I saw the real Aaron Archer at Charticon and he mentioned that he just moved to that area. Aarcher ( the poster on the boards ) has California as his location.
     
  17. Primal Sabbath

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    Noideaforaname Pico, let's go up to Zuma

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    The reason Hasbro never used Breakdown:
    ... is really vague, actually. Could be it didn't pass US safety standards, could be removing those AM ports/pegs cost too much, could be it didn't fit in Hasbro's price/size classes, could be a billion other things. All we know is that Hasbro couldn't sell Breakdown for reasons.

    Of course, the real question is can the Club sell Breakdown?
     
  19. Primal Sabbath

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    Chances are, it's a combination of safety standards (which I'm not sure how that figure fails to meet those standards, then again, I don't own it), AND it would cost too much. As far as can the club use it goes... I wouldn't see why not. Again, I think since they don't specifically market to kids (even though their website and logo is posted on EVERY Transformers product out at retail, which is FOR kids) that they'll be able to use it. Who knows? I'm still holding out for Cannonball being TFP Kup. But if it IS Breakdown, I'm more than happy with that too.
    I think my biggest thing right now (as my previous posts will point to) is if we'll get Dai Atlas... And if we DO, praying forever it isn't Generations Blitzwing/Doubledealer. Which I don't see them using it due to all of the flak the mold gets for it's own design flaws. Maybe for Shattered Glass Blitzwing or something :lol 
     
  20. PoweredConvoy

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    Yes but they still have the Transformers brand and logo on it and have to meet those child safety regulations. These exclusives could still end up in the hands of children. Hasbro would not be happy if they got bad PR because something didn't meet safety regulations.

    They still do, despite that descriptor. Anything that goes through Hasbro has to be able to be safe enough for a child.

    Randy