Big Firebird Toy - EX-01 NICEE *Post no Pictures*

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Moos Crew, Aug 20, 2020.

  1. Zyros

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    It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to see someone enjoy something I deigned. Thank you for the kind words. :) 
     
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  2. mx-01 archon

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    I tried that, but honestly, I don't really like it. Yeah, it allows her to raise her arms the full 90 degrees to the side without a lot of extra futzing, but it does affect her neutral poses a bit, as it does make the shoulderpads sit a little further away from the body than normal, and the shapes flow just a little bit better the intended way.
     
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    This is about as good as she’s going to get with my printer. Just a little cleanup is needed...but it turned out better than I expected. I need to get a 0.2mm nozzle someday...

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  4. NothingHead

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    .2mm made a big difference for me. You can also use acetone in very small amounts and a little bit of light rubbing to smooth the lines out quite a bit. At that resolution though, you are going to lose her cheek lines.
     
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  5. NothingHead

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    I started working on printing yours out today! Unfortunately, I also tried an experiment in adding pearlescent pigment straight into the resin... of course, everything started going wrong. Going to have to wait for some sunlight to try again with some clean resin!
     
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    I would pay good money to have someone print that out and paint it.
     
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  7. GAUGE

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    So far from what I have been gathering on all the head printing progress is that: "RESIN SUCKS" and that "ABS" seems to be the way to go. It's Brittle, Loss of Detail from sanding, It shrinks, Hard to paint. Am I missing anything? :oops: 

    Am I pretty much dead on in this observation from intel gathering? :lol 

    Resin seems to be the way not to go. idk. tons of hurtles here.

    Can we get some Reports on ABS plastic drawbacks too? would really help make this so not one-sided.
     
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  8. Zyros

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    Resin is ABS in this case haha. There should be no loss of detail with a resin print (in fact, they're usually higher resolution than other printers). It's no more difficult to paint than any other plastic once you wash it with soapy water.
     
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  9. MAZING

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    I wouldn't say this is a fair statement. There are different types of resins available for different applications and IMO I prefer the print details from resin over pla. 3d printers in general are commonly used for quick prototyping, not final production so expectations for the output should be set. It's nice to have a tangible design but I wouldn't expect Hasbro durability.
     
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  10. GAUGE

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    I see.

    I guess 3D printing overall will never be a perfect science at home nor will Molding and sculpt work from home. Both seem to have their pluses and minuses.

    This is just coming from just some nobody looking in that doesn't do any of this stuff. (<---has zero talent for 3D or sculpting anything.) I still find it all quite fascinating either way. :) 
     
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    Hello.

    Quick question:

    Is this figure still available for purchase or preorder anywhere?

    Thanks
     
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    TerryTFSclub and TFdirect have it in stock
     
  13. King Diamocon

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    BBTS has one left for preorder. Better snag it!
     
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    I'm just curious, and I apologize if I'm being daft, but why are pics forbidden? The images I've seen, she's voluptuous but not pornographic. Not trying to start a thing, just asking.
     
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  16. King Diamocon

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    Some people can't handle her sexiness and can't simply ignore her. Que internet arguments.
     
  17. Snaku

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    Interesting. Prints from my .2mm nozzle seemed almost indistinguishable from prints from my .4mm nozzle when I tried it. There was a very very slight uptick in quality but even in the case of a DND mini I couldn't really spot much difference other than the one took four times as long to print as the other. Used 40 micron layer heights as well.

    It has its drawbacks. It tends to be more brittle (there are better, less brittle resins but they tend to require a higher working temperature) and you pretty much have to paint it as it cures in UV light and overcuring it's a thing. But it comes out much much smoother with layer lines being almost non-existent.

    ABS on a FDM printer is certainly tougher and more flexible but you'll never get the same level of detail you would on a resin printer. I've never heard of the ABS resin that @Zyros is talking about but I'm gonna have to look into it. I doubt it's as tough as extruded or injection molded ABS plastic but it sounds pretty good.

    From my research, it seems the best way is to print with a resin printer and then create a mold of that printed part so you can cast it in a better, more durable resin. It's on my to do eventually list but some of the supplies are pretty pricey and I've got other things I'm doing. For something like a some head sculpt, though, printing resin should be just fine, especially with a head as round as Arcee's (nothing sticking off to snap off) though I'm planning on using the neck piece from the spare head since a printed one would break too easily.
     
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  18. NothingHead

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    Full disclosure, I don’t expect anything coming out of my FDM printer to not look like garbage. I don’t really have a high opinion of FDM when it comes to small parts like this. That slight uptick in quality was relative but noticeable. The first print I did smoothed really well with acetone; of course, I lost all the details like the liens on her cheeks.

    I think the neck joint will work fine in resin, and if not that piece can always be printed an FDM. I’ve printed a few tests and once the crossbar is sanded and a screw is passed through it, I feel like the whole assembly was the bed that gave me the least amount of trouble. By the way, I don’t think the heads share the same peg, but you can always print it later if it’s not a match.

    i’m still arguing with my Elegoo, I thought it would be fun to print Zyros’s heads today and it decided to just run the gamut of print failure variations and now my tank liner needs to be replaced after pulling a half-dozen failed heads off of it. I also tried pigmenting the resin and I think it might still work, since I tried clean resin since and clearly it wasn’t the answer to whatever is wrong..
     
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  19. GAUGE

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    Holy shit bro. wow! It feels like you just can't catch a break. Really sorry you are having all these issues, what a bummer. :( 
     
  20. mx-01 archon

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    Sucks that you had to bear the brunt of these issues, but situations like this is exactly why I scoff when people think that 3D printers are poised to replace standard injection molding machines in manufacturing. No, what you're imagining is a frickin' Star Trek matter replicator. Not *gestures broadly* ~this.
     
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