Best DBZ saga?

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Best DBZ saga?

  1. Saiyan Saga

    5 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Namek Saga

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  3. Frieza Saga

    10 vote(s)
    28.6%
  4. Garlic Saga

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Androids Saga

    3 vote(s)
    8.6%
  6. Cell Saga

    9 vote(s)
    25.7%
  7. Great Saiyaman Saga

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  8. Buu Saga

    6 vote(s)
    17.1%
  1. QLRformer

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    Which do you think was the best saga from DBZ?

    List of Dragon Ball Z episodes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Note: I’ve grouped these sagas in terms of storylines:
    - Namek Saga includes the Capt Ginyu Saga
    - Androids Saga includes the Trunks Saga
    - Cell Saga incorporates the Imperfect Cell, Perfect Cell and Cell Games sagas
    - Great Saiyaman Saga incorporates the World Tournament Saga
    - and Buu Saga incorporates the Babidi, Majin Buu, Fusion and Kid Buu sagas

    I’d say it was the Saiyan-Frieza sagas. Those have some great storytelling and development, as it was the culmination of Goku from a fighter into a force of destiny chosen to wipe out the universe’s most dreaded being. Also Toriyama was actually intending to end DBZ at the Frieza saga, so there was some storytelling and epicness in that saga.

    I vote the Saiyan saga as that was my introduction to the whole DRAGON BALL story.
     
  2. Soundpulse

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    I only watched Kai, which was Saiyan to Cell. I really enjoyed the Cell saga, but Frieza was my favorite.
     
  3. CrypticIllusionist

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    Actually, despite the overwhelmingly common rumour, there is absolutely no proof of this. Toriyama has never said that he had any specific intention or made any concentrated effort to end the story with the Frieza saga. More on that over at Kanzentai: Kanzentai - Intended Endings Guide
    Anyway, my choice? Ehh, torn between Frieza and Cell. Regardless of what I was just saying, the Frieza battle sure does make for an epic conclusion, especially when you get to the part where Goku tells a dying Frieza that he's tired of fighting. 'Cause, y'know, Goku, of all people, being tired of fighting has some interesting implications.
    But then Cell had this sort of epic back and forth power struggle and also brought about everything that made me love Gohan as a character in design and personality.
     
  4. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    I like Frieza best. I haven't really gotten far past the Android's introduction since i'm waiting for the Ocean dub to come out.
     
  5. Belgrath

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    3-way tie between the Frieza, Cell and Majin Buu sagas.
     
  6. Matrixbeast

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    Cell saga, easy.
    I hated the Frieza saga when I was younger, and it took someone showing me the Android saga for me to actually get into the series, with the Cell saga making me a fan.
     
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    Its a toss up between the Saiyan and Cell sagas for me, although Frieza isn't too far behind.
     
  8. Primus5289

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    Androids and Cell
     
  9. LegendAntihero

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    Buu hands down. He's the only main villain who didn't get beat by a new super saiyan.
     
  10. Solrac333

    Solrac333 G1 got it right!

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    I kind of lump Namek and Frieza together as 1 HUGE saga.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I'm going with as well, since the whole Namek/Frieza thing is kinda the same thing.
     
  12. einis

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    It's a tie between Frieza and Cell for me.
     
  13. lildevilchick

    lildevilchick what the doctor ordered

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    Completely false. He originally intended to end it after the Cell saga, which is why Kai ends where it ends. Kai was meant to represent Toriyama's vision and since he had intended to end it after Cell, that's where Kai stopped. I don't remember where I read it, but if I recall correctly, Akira Toriyama validated this statement himself. I've also never heard the rumor that he was going to end it after the Frieza saga. The one I most widely hear is him ending it after Cell. And the one where he wanted Gohan to take over - which he did for a short time. But fans wanted Goku back, so Toriyama delivered.

    Anyway, I voted the Cell saga. Gohan is my favorite character and I loved seeing him evolve to be the strongest character. Plus his fight with Cell was simply awesome.
     
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    Why don't I remember the garlic saga?
     
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    lol i don't see how one could call that NOT the same saga.

    same with the cell, and androids thing. people call that different sagas too.

    but it IS the same saga.

    as for me, Freiza, and Cell sagas were the highlight of the dragon ball series to me.

    i found the sayan saga *aka season 1* a little bland. and the stuff after cell saga, is just a repeat of the cell saga. with Buu instead of Cell. but he is still a regenerating super powered villain.

    I also liked the first few episodes of the dragon ball GT series. since it got back to the finding the balls thing. and it made it universal. Plus it had a lot of cool looking aliens. I liked it. Plus Vegeta has a mustache. so that's a plus.

    but once dragon ball started doing that fusion stuff... i kind'a quit watching it. it was just kind'a lame to me.

    but i did go back to GT. i was kind'a hoping to see a GIRL become a super sayan too.

    but of course, can't have that now, can we? :lol 
     
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    Androids and Cell are the same saga.

    Some people don't seem to understand what the word Saga means.


    Then maybe you aren't that big a fan.

    Toriyama originally wanted to end the series after Frieza, but was convinced by his editors to continue. This was well known even at the time the Cell storyline was going on. And yeah, the same thing happened after Cell. Again, his editors convinced him to hang on. After Buu, he finally put his foot down.
     
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    Lol at Garlic not having any.

    My favorite would be Frieza/Namek which I count as one but I voted Frieza. It seemed like the perfect place to end things and it was suitably epic. Frieza is also the most awesome of the main villains. I don't mind the Cell/Android saga and while I think we could have done without it I would have no objection to it being the endpoint. The world is saved again, Frieza has been topped in power, and Gohan is finally coming into his own as the main hero. Continuing it with Buu who's somehow even stronger than Frieza and Cell just cheapens what came before in my opinion.

    This is one of the reasons I love Kai. It cuts out filler, fixes the voice acting, and ends the story at an appropriate point.
     
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    Toriyama agrees with you and kind of provides meta-commentary on his own comic by making it so ridiculous that Buu can kill everyone on Earth in one attack. That is Toriyama telling his editors, "See? I told you I can't continue it anymore."
     
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    I think most (if not the entirety) of that shit took place in movies rather than the series, same with Brolly.
     
  20. CrypticIllusionist

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    Again, this is false as well. Kai ended at the Cell Games because Kai was doing poorly in merchandising in Japan and was canceled. (I'm positive Kanzentai has an article covering this but at the moment I'm unable to find it.) EDIT: It's not the same article I had in mind but it has some of the same info: Kanzenshuu | Features | The Evolution of "Dragon Ball Kai"
    The idea behind Kai was to be a recut of Z to be more accurate to the manga which did have Buu. Buu even appeared on some Kai merchandise (posters, video games (i.e. Ultimate Butouden) etc.). Kai was supposed to include the Buu arc but was canceled before it happened.
    However, Mayumi Tanaka (Japanese voice of Krillin/Kuririn) recently revealed that the Japanese cast has been called back to do new recordings for Kai saying that it's coming back though not to broadcast TV in Japan. Source: Kanzenshuu | News | Dragon Ball Kai to Continue... but Not in Japan
    Toriyama did not make a concentrated effort to end the series with Cell just as he did not make a concentrated effort to end the series with Frieza. Would he have if Shonen Jump had given him the option? Maybe. But keep in mind that Toriyama never planned very far ahead in any manga he wrote. When he began Dragon Ball, he had no idea it would go even beyond the very first arc (Emperor Pilaf). Cell wasn't even an idea in his head when the Android arc began. Source: Kanzentai - Intended Endings Guide

    I'm relatively convinced that that is a statistical impossibility. It's without a doubt the most rampant rumour in the Dragon Ball fandom and even comes from a kind-of-but-not-really official source...
    Of course, what Toriyama actually said was nothing of the sort.

    Source: Kanzentai - Intended Endings Guide
    The third year of the manga's publication would have actually been somewhere around Baba's introduction, before the Z portion of the story even existed.

    Apparently you aren't either...
    Completely unsubstantiated rumour. Neither Toriyama nor any of his editors have ever confirmed this version of the rumour (or any version of it, really). It was not "well known", it was just "widely believed"; it was a rumour.

    I seriously recommend, for everyone interested, to read Kanzentai's 'Intended Endings Guide' which I linked above. I'm really sick of these rumours.