Behind the Scenes WFCT Siege Panel Today

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Tony_Bacala, Sep 24, 2020.

  1. Tony_Bacala

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    Show was okay. Visually has. Nothing on Transformers Prime. Even Beast Machines was better. Rooster Teeth is just... not very good. And the Voice acting was mostly atrocious. I wanted to like but these animated series on the cheap are stupid. 
     
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    I enjoyed it, but the voice work, minus a few exceptions (Megatron and Elita were great) left much to be desired. Hopefully for Earthrise they will hire union professionals.
     
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    Yeah I think Earthrise is coming before year’s end.
     
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    I reserve judgement as a whole when the trilogy is complete. As for siege, i certainly felt that the direction and writing did an excellent job at making the audience feel as if the autobots were under siege. The fast past action and seemingly endless knods to previous iterations make this very enjoyable for me. Cant wait to see them set the mood for earthrise...hmmm...what should i expect when some describes an earthrise?
     
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    Yeah, with how early Netflix themselves confirmed Kingdom I'm assuming ER is coming this winter/spring and Kingdom August next year
     
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    Did anyone ask about the brainfart behind scripting Ultra Magnus in the brig overhearing Megatron and Shockwave in their command room? Lots else wrong with the show, but that's the one that just encapsulates the half-assery of the show.
     
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    They really aren't to be completely honest. They survive, IMO, on a train of mediocrity and an obsessively loyal fanbase that will support them no matter what. RvB, RWBY, Gen Locke, WFC, it's all very bland and lifeless. Nothing they make is so bad it's embarrassing, but it's just so uninteresting and soulless, like they're more interested in surface appeal rather than making anything of true quality. Their shows look good, they sometimes get celebrity voices, but the writing is awful and the stories are, at best, passable. WFC especially is just such a hollow husk of what Transformers is, with no depth or charm or entertainment value beyond just seeing the Transformers on screen.

    I can't imagine Earthrise or Kingdom will do anything to elevate the show in hindsight. If anything I'm expecting massive continuity errors and contrivances to explain how they get Earth modes without ever making it to Earth, only to end up in prehistoric times. All delivered through emotionless, stagnant character with dry, plodding dialogue that verges on torturous due to how unnaturally slow it is.

    Beast Machines makes WFC look embarrassing, TBH. BM has dynamic characters, a moving plot, stakes and scenarios that feel severe, and a delve in Cybertron's mythology and the Transformers' origins that feels inspired and multi-faceted. It rewards the viewer for dissecting and analyzing it, rather than being nothing but empty air below a pretentious surface.

    WFC didn't even give a clear explanation about what the war was even about, let alone how it actually started. It was billed as the beginning of the famous Transformers' conflict, but it starts near the waning days of Cybertron. It's no more an origin of the war than the first few minutes of MTMTE were.
     
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    To add insult to injury they're supposedly near the end of a million year old war, yet everyone lacks any semblance of war experience.

    This wouldn't be as bad if not for Hasbro saying "this is the definitive Transformers show".
     
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    Yeah! millions of years at War and its like Primes first day!
     
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    Honestly! I found it so funny how all the other autobots seem tired of his shit. Especially elita 1. I think there are three or more separate scenes of elita 1 calling optimus out. Hilarious.
     
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    I loved the serie...can't wait to see more.
     
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    Honestly, if not for the fact that Optimus is outright said to be the leader of the Autobots, you'd think Elita would be the leader considering she's one of the only competant characters in the whole show.
     
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    Comparing this show to Beast Machines is an insult to Beast Machines. That show was orders of magnitude more in touch with itself than WFC has been thus far.

    I'd like to see them explain why:
    *Prime was an idyllic idiot that just pulled ideas out of his ass that made no sense whatsoever and somehow he's supposed to be the noble leader?

    *Ultra Magnus was a naive fool. Every single thing he did made him look like an even bigger idiot.

    *Elita One hated everything. At every point. And the false-feeling drama of stupid lines like the straight from a soap opera, "this isn't the life I imagined for us" didn't help a bit.

    *Bumblebee as the grizzled loner just doesn't fit any aspect of what he's traditionally been. And while that could have been an interesting character, we get very little real development and just a sense that there's probably something there that should have gotten traction, but it just fell flat at "bland nobody."

    *The plot didn't have any true definition. It'd be difficult to summarize what happened because, in all honesty, none of it had anything to pull you in. It was just lifeless and dull. Do they not have anybody on-staff that knows how to write engaging characters and plot points?

    I say this fully acknowledging that I sort of enjoyed some aspects of it, and I wouldn't be nearly as critical of it had Hasbro not touted it as the be-all/end-all that they tried to say it was. If this is their idea of "definitive," they need to reexamine what that word actually means.
     
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    The vocal pacing was straight up painful! you cant watch it a second time. Its like every character was written for that one kid on Malcolm in the middle. the one....... who ...talks like....... this..... and......leaves....massive.....pauses.....
     
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    yeah, I found the animation to range from adequate to occasionally quite beautiful, but the bland-to-bad voice acting (and purely bad voice direction) and overall pacing of the show really left a lot to be desired. The story could have had much more depth and much less exposition.

    Really, my new bar for CG action animation is the Star Wars: Squadrons "Hunted' short film. That 7 minute short felt like it had more genuine emotion, drama, tension, and stakes then entire Sequel Trilogy combined (much less WfC: Siege), AND even managed to make the villain the hero you root for. (make sure you watch it if you haven't had a chance, it's absolutely stunning)

    But it really shows that you don't need much to tell a good story, you just need to tell it well. (I'd call WFC:S an OK story told poorly.)
     
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    And all with minimal dialogue. It's depressing how utterly devoid of human emotion and understandable characters WFC is with all its lofty dialogue and pontificating of war, and that little 7 minute short felt so much more earnest and captivating.
     
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    They hired William Shatner?
     
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    This show was unwatchable.
     
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    I could have lived with the animation if the story, writing, and the voice acting hadn't been bottom of the barrel amateur hour. The G1 cartoon was painful, but at least it never professed to be anything more than a standard 20 minute 1980's toy commercial. If there's any news about Earthrise in this panel I'd read it out of morbid curiosity but I'm not compelled to watch Siege a second time, much less a follow up that will undoubtedly be just as bad.
     
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