Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by BraveMax, Jan 7, 2013.
Need better pics to decide...
Beast Hunters is a better crafted line than Beyblade and that manages to survive, if any line is on the verge of cancellation or in trouble it's Masterpiece or Generations not Beast Hunters as TRU is 5 minutes away from failing, and Target and Walmart only seem interested in boxed sets and exclusives in a Movie year the market might sustain itself on Asian tastes alone, but I do wonder if one of the reason MP's are now so expensive is partly due to that Hasbro is less effective at sharing the costs - basically if they couldn't get a retailer to take Soundwave's MP toy then there's nothing to drive his cost down.
I have often also wondered if Grimlock was supposed to be a Leader or Weaponizer but they did him as a Voyager as they thought no one would order a large Grimlock as a sole large scale generations toy (which to me seems more like an excuse to make another chracter than an excuse to not do it at all).
But a mainline that has true global potential and Hundreds of Thousands of sales like Beast Hunters likely will can pay for itself, and does not have to be a repaint/remould only line like much of the Asian releases are. and if it does prove to be a failure then I suspect all Hasbro will do is slant more design slot towards Movie 4 toys instead. I'm certain that the line won't be running in parallel with the 4th movie toyline - one is going to die off and unless they decide to prop up generations or Prime off the back of more recent Videogames. I suspect Beast Hunters might be in trouble. But as the Movie line wont likely come out until 2014 they have no choice but to carry on as they are for a year at least.
The logical thing to do is perhaps not reboot everything but instead simply remove the releases for a few month to a year and then come back with a renewed Prime Tv show and toyline in late 2014-early 2015 or another mini-season in early 2014 before the movie comes out. and in the mean time just drip out the odd thing that isn't a Movie toy.
Personally if it was me i'd show a bit more creativity and do what was done with the Fantastic Four Movie figures the 1st few waves were based on the Movies and then after that they transposed it into a comic based line. this happens a lot with Marvel related toylines. and the same thing might well work with Transformers too.
This was done to some degree with lines like Robots in Disguise, Universe 1.0 and Hunt for the Decepticons. They could do the same again Transformers after movie 4 they don't have to make the like of Animated, Generations, even Prime toys as a complete line there's plenty of space to pop them into a generic Transformers brand post movie with a mix of Movie character left overs (from all 4 movies) and similar missing characters from other brands too... (like that Rhinox or Star Saber Takara say they wish to do).
If the Beast Hunters line last a year then vanishes sometime in 2014 the beast idea can come back again in 2015 or 2016 for the Beast Wars 20th anniversary. However there is a chance that bay might green light a 5th and 6th Movie right away so heck knows but perhaps 2016 might be another movie year.
I know this though I'd rather have a Starscream that looks like a demented version of Terrorsaur than have another 140+Bumblebee toys post Movie 4. That Beast Hunters "isnt" another Movie line is merit enough, I don't mind the idea of Movie toys I just object when 25% of the entire line is Bumblebee and they never bother to make the cool stuff like Scavenger or Overload as toys.
There's still nothing that indicates a beast mode. He's just wearing the same kind of armor as everyone else.
Minus the flaky chrome bits you may be on to something. For shits and giggles perhaps a new Waspinator figure is in order and a redeco into Buzzsaw. Hasbro can only offer up so many dragons (I think we're up to 4 now) before it starts to get rather tiresome.
BH Soundwave also has big bladed wings now. Does he have a beast mode?
Only if you put your specs on backwards and stand 16 foot away.
I'll pass :
The colors look a bit weird to me, like the mold though.
theres a reason beast wars are worthless. bh is an insult to my intelligence. i feel sorry for the human race.
How is it that such a wonderful personality hasn't been banned yet?
Says the man child that collects toys.
Sorry you don't like the line but you can always put your money where your mouth is and move to premium collecting with 3P offerings and MPs.
As a collector you need to come to terms that the main line will cater to children first. There are at least 4 other lines you can collect (3P and official) that will suit all your needs, but those figures start at the $35 and go up to $350. edit- They go as high as $600 if you get into combiners.
i'm sick of people saying that shitty toys = for kids. this is biggest line of bullshit ever. when i was a kid i did not like disgusting garbage like BH. people think kids are stupid but they're not. they talk down to them and treat them as lessers. it's these people who are the stupid ones. when BH fails hard, you will see i am right.
A line failing =/= you being right that Hasbro thinks kids are stupid.
As for people saying crappy toys = kids, again you are insanely wrong. A toy is made because people think a kid will like it. Sometimes they're right and sometimes they're wrong.
You don't like these, fine neither do I, but please get the eff off your high horse.
Just laugh, report and move on.
obvious hasbro shills are obvious
WHAT intelligence? You have shown zero ever since I started following your posts.
We get it, you don't like Beast Hunters. Point taken. You've stated (several times) your feelings and opinion of the line....the horse is dead....no need to try and beat the same feelings into everyone else.
I could care less about the line myself....I might pick up SS after I see him in person, but that's about it as far as I can see for now....having said that, I'm not in here badgering the line, or the human race for liking it either.
Here's a novel idea: How about you try and be happy for those that do like the line?...cant do that? Then move on.
I want to see the jet mode.
Also guys chill out. You don't like it, that's cool. You like it, that's fine too. Whether this line fails will be dependent on if kids buy it. One thing limiting their exposure is the fact that the Hub is a subscription channel or whatever. Nonetheless, Transformers still sold this past holiday season.
What these have going for them compared to last year is possibly less hollow parts and less electronic based gimmicks(powerizer weapons ugh), meaning the tooling went more towards the actual figure instead of accessories. Hopefully.
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