Beast Era (Wars/Machines/etc.) Appreciation Thread

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  1. Alpha_&_Omega

    Alpha_&_Omega From the Covenant of Primus...

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    No issues on my copies.
     
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  2. DracoPrimal

    DracoPrimal Nomenclature Nominator

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    Like A & O, my copies are A-OK these days. Retrax, for all the guff I give that toy, is STILL 100% and I gave mine to my kid last year. Suffering for gimmicks in design, but a well-built figure.
     
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    Mine are all okay too!
     
  4. Fenrys

    Fenrys Formerly Tigatron2002

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    Only original Pred insect I've got is Inferno and he's doing pretty good, despite missing his weapons
     
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    Reposting since we’re talking bugs

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    I love these guys
     
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  6. TM2 Dinobot

    TM2 Dinobot closet otaku

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    Let's see. Counting Scorponok but not crustaceans, here's what the insect/arachnid BW-only lineup looks like. Am I missing anybody?

    BW:
    Beetle
    Insecticon
    Tarantulas
    Blackarachnia
    Waspinator
    Buzzsaw
    Scorponok
    Arachnid (playset)
    Inferno
    Drillbit
    Powerpinch
    Jetstorm
    Manterror
    Retrax
    Transquito
    Ramhorn
    Cicadicon

    BW Metals:
    Buzzclaw
    Injector
    Skyshadow
    TM Tarantulas
    TM Waspinator
    Scavenger (TM Inferno)
    TM Scorponok
    TM Blackarachnia
    TM2 Scarem
    TM2 Scourge
    TM2 Blackarachnia

    BWII/N:
    DJ
    Motorarm
    Scissorboy (no change)
    DrillNuts (minor change)
    Mantis (minor change)
    Dirgegun
    Powerhug
    Tonbot
    BigMos
    Dragocron
    Ratorata (no change)

    Repaints:
    Fox Kids Waspinator
    Fox Kids TM Waspinator
    Fox Kids TM Tarantulas
    Horrorcon Blackarachnia
    Universe Blackarachnia
    Tarantulas (10th/Telemocha)
    Waspinator (10th/Telemocha)
    Blackarachnia (telemocha)
    Legends Blackarachnia
    Legends Waspinator

    BM:
    Buzzsaw
    Blackarachnia
    Blackarachnia (BW Returns)
    Crystal Widow
    Poison Bite

    Kingdom:
    Generations Waspinator
    Buzz-Bot (gobot)
    Waspinator
    Scorponok
    Blackarachnia
    Buzzsaw
    Sandstorm
    Bumblebee Blackarachnia

    Botcon:
    Virulent Clones
    Dirge
    Buzz Claw
    Waunderers (x4)
    TM2 Arcee
    Antagony
    Vicegrip
    Sandstorm
    Double Punch
     
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  7. ApocalypseThruster

    ApocalypseThruster Local “Why aren’t they here?!” Poster

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    Sky Shadow reference art has gone on eBay, if anyone's wanting to nab and scan there, here they are:
    Beast Wars Prototype Sky Shadow Takara Reference Sheets Rare Vintage Original | eBay
    Beast Wars Prototype Sky Shadow Artwork Color Copy Packaging Reference Rare | eBay

    Latolata has slightly changed plastic (black to dark grey), and a changed rub sign. Scissor Boy also has a changed rub-sign.

    Also, for characters you forgot, BW Quickstrike (part scorpion). If we're counting upcoming releases, then Legacy Inferno, Legacy Tarantulas, and the 4-pack Paralyzer and Toy Scorponok.
     
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  8. Lazerwave

    Lazerwave My Most Prized Treasure

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    Man I wish hasbro would do the reissue of optimus primal in his blue lucky draw colors
     
  10. motorthing

    motorthing Too old for this $hit

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    Satisfying.
     
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  11. Alpha_&_Omega

    Alpha_&_Omega From the Covenant of Primus...

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    Zero chance on the original mold... maybe a kingdom exclusive?
     
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    Rdfnd1253 Well-Known Member

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    why I mean they have the original on the shelf right now
     
  13. Alpha_&_Omega

    Alpha_&_Omega From the Covenant of Primus...

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    Because it was produced in specified limited quantities for a colector market and would break the trust between collectors and the company. Without that trust, items like the limited quantity haslab items would never get made. Also there are most likely legal agreements between hastak and the magazines/ conventions per those quantities.

    So if we want those colors, we have to pony up the $ for the original run or paint up a custom.
     
  14. Fenrys

    Fenrys Formerly Tigatron2002

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    Then explain the Lucky Draw Blue Big Convoy and the Legends EX Blue Big Convoy. Colors may not be exactly the same, but the LG EX figure is definitely a reference to the Lucky Draw figure
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  15. Alpha_&_Omega

    Alpha_&_Omega From the Covenant of Primus...

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    Why should I explain anything when you already did. The colors are not the same.
     
  16. Fenrys

    Fenrys Formerly Tigatron2002

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    So then why would a potential call back to the lucky draw have to be the same for primal? You are the one that stated it wouldn't be done with the original mold while LG EX Blue Big Convoy kind of disproves your assertion. Hell, even the current re-released bw figures aren't entirely the same colors as their original releases
     
  17. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    Basic Class:

    1996

    Iguanus - Rattrap - Razorbeast - Terrorsaur - Armordillo - Insecticon - Snapper
    1997
    Airazor - Razorclaw - Claw Jaw - Drillbit - Lazorbeak - Powerpinch - Snarl - Spittor
    1998
    Air Hammer - Quickstrike - Noctorro - Terragator - Bantor - Buzzclaw
    1999
    Optimus Minor - Scarem - Sonar - Spittor - Stinkbomb - Nightglider

    Deluxe Class:

    1996
    Optimus Primal vs. Megatron - Dinobot - Tarantulas - Waspinator - Cheetor - Rhinox - Wolfang - Blackarachnia - Buzzsaw - Tigatron
    1997
    Cybershark - Jetstorm - Bonecrusher - Manterror - Grimlock - K9- Retrax
    1998
    Silverbolt - Sky Shadow - Injector - Torca - Cheetor - Rhinox - Tarantulas - Rattrap - Waspinator - Airazor - Terrorsaur
    1999
    Cheetor - Dinobot - Ramulus - Prowl - Scourge - Iguanus - Jawbreaker

    Mega Class:

    1996
    Scorponok - Polar Claw
    1997
    Inferno - B'Boom - Transquito
    1998
    Megatron - Optimus Primal - Scavenger
    1999
    Cybershark - Blackarachnia

    Ultra Class:

    1996
    Optimus Primal - Megatron
    1997
    Magnaboss - Tripredacus
    1998
    Depth Charge - Rampage
    1999
    Megatron - Tigerhawk

    Super Class:

    1998
    Optimal Optimus

    1999 Fox Kids:

    Cheetor - Rhinox - Waspinator - Cheetor - Tarantulas


    2000 Mutants/Fox Kids:

    Rattrap - Rhinox - Poison Bite - Razor Claw - Airazor - Icebird - Soundwave -
    Waspinator

    1999-2001 Walmart Exclusives:

    Rattrap - Tripredacus Agent


    That's it. Every mass release Beast Wars Transformer acquired. Will likely take a break before I start delving into the exclusives, but with the help of @Kid Icarus my childhood dream came true today. I finally have all that creeps, crawls and flies. :D 

    I also nabbed the reissue Tigatron yesterday for my birthday. Was sorely tempted to open him. In fact I may eventually crack and get both him and Cheetor again to have versions to open, given how poorly my Hasbro 10th reissue Cheetor gels with my collection. (aside form the near-translucent yellow I custom painted it and pretty poorly at that)

    Also had no luck finding Kingdom Tigatron but I did see Kingdom Waspinator in person and... while he doesn't look bad, in hand he didn't look great. He's small and the sculpt isn't that great up close. I hemmed and hawed but for $34 Canadian I couldn't. I'll stick with the T30 version unless Kingdom Waspy ends up on sale or something.

    But you said there's "zero chance" of it being the original mould, then agree with a potential workaround with the original mould. I feel like that was the original point of contention rather than explicit accuracy to the LD's actual colours.
     
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  18. Not Blitzwing

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    Happy Late Birthday!
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  19. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    So, now that I've 'completed" the BW toyline and has experienced every mould,it's interesting looking at the line overall.

    I definitely think this is one of the best TF lines ever. The shear variety and number of unique designs, sculpts, and play patterns is honestly kind of staggering. And yet despite that massive spectrum I'd say the majority of the toys are genuinely great, and average higher than modern TF toys in my opinion. The colours, paint jobs, sculpts, and just liveliness of the toys is fantastic, and I can pick up almost any one of of them and be met with bold colours and fun character design. Some of the later figures are definitely clunkier, and not all are winners. Out of all the BW toys I honestly think Noctorro may be the worst. Yes, even worse than Retrax, because as bad as Retrax's compromises to his gimmick are, Noctorro compromises almost everything for his gimmick and it doesn't even work. The spring-loaded wings flap down but there's no mechanism to flap them up so you have to manually reset it, and the arms don't even stay plugged in. Also the hands are sculpted at a genuinely bizarre angle that looks wrong in both modes. Shame because the sculpt and colours are fantastic, he looks like a demon and is visually everything I love about Beast Wars.

    I think my favourite figures overall though may be TM Cheetor, OG Cybershark, Fuzor Silverbolt, any 1996/97 Basic, and Tripredacus. It was actually hard to narrow it down to those, and as I type I'm debating other figures that fall into my favourites like almost any other Transmetal toy. (especially Waspinator) Honestly feels pretty fulfilling in a small way to have them all at last. :3
     
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  20. Verno

    Verno Beast Wars Collector

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    Noctorro?! With his ball-joint ankle tilts 20 years before it was cool?!

    Nah, that's a fair assessment of him.
     
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