I know Bay gets all the criticism but I love his techniques no matter how random the explosions. What he gets bashed for more than any director is the lack of character personality and plot line. But what really got to me in AoE was the corny one liners that occurred almost every scene and jumbled, jumpy plot. I know Bay may put his touches on the writing but overall Kruger, in my humble opinion, has great big ideas, but terrible writing a lot of the time. Lines that when I heard them I literally shook my head and said wow how did they not hear that and think "that was incredibly dumb." I love the entire franchise but with a new and more complete writer, this movie could have been even more amazing. Okay I'm done sorry.
IF the franchise is able to bring in a writer who actually understands the history of Transformers, and isn't afraid to tell Bay 'no' when he has brain farts about killing off core characters, it could work. I still believe the franchise needs a fresh new vision. I do like Bay's aesthetics, but his vision is staling at warp speed. For me, AOE wasn't horrible, but it wasn't all that good either. I still think ROTF is actually better than AOE.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but that really doesn't make sense to me. AOE was superior to ROTF in literally every possible way. Kruger's not the greatest. But, I can definitely tell that he's a fan of the franchise. He's proven that he knows his stuff. And he's definitely a step up from Orci & Kurtzman. Honestly, I thought he found success with the story formula he used for DOTM. Take a few G1 episodes, weld them together, and craft any new ideas you have around those.
I personally feel that ROTF flowed a heck of alot better. It didn't have multiple storyarcs making the film seem choppy. The writing was nowhere near being the train wreck that Kruger created for AOE. For me, other than a little bit more Bot character development and the aesthetics of the film, I was actually pretty disappointed. The first half of AOE paced slowly, while the second half was all over the place. In the theater I was in, there was literally zero applause for the film. Just about everyone I heard commenting on it afterwards, thought the first three were far better. There are those who liked AOE but I keep coming across many more who feel the film is either just ok, or were disappointed in it. To each their own, I guess.
Once Optimus died in ROTF, the movie came to a screeching halt, and it never really recovered from it. And if "I'm directly beneath enemy scrotum" isn't a complete train-wreck in writing for you, I'm not sure what is.
I look at the overall flow and script, not just a few lines. For me, AOE just wasn't that great, script wise.
Just have Kruger do some new stuff, and actually think twice about his writings, and he's the best imo.
Bay has the vision to make any film he wants awesome. He just doesn't have the best writers in the world backing him up. He's directed some awesome stuff in the past.
Transformers just needs a basic story. All these movies are so overcomplicated. Less is more. Kruger has the potential to do a script but he needs a good kick up the arse from Bay.
Bay keeps Krueger around cuz they are probably friends in real life, like how bay hires hot women for actors/ extras because they are hot
Also there always seem to be extra human characters who get alot of dialogue, but add nothing to the story. They get paid alot too, so if you just trimmed off the unnecessary human characters, you could have a little more bot screen time. Wouldn't be as much filmed as humans, but the films are too long for their own good anyway
Kruger isn't a terrible writer. He just had to write a script around some already-filmed set pieces, which cost the movie, oh, about everything that makes a good story, and he already struggles with things like that. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Baysplosions, but fuck, Mikey has serious ADD when it comes to filmmaking. Everything's so gigantic, so chaotic, so fast paced...oh, and the humor, no matter how well done, is just too plentiful. What the film needs is a second director to keep Bay on a leash, and a second writer to polish the script and work with Kruger on it. Or just get everybody who worked on The Rock back.
Exactly, all you needed was Joshua and Attinger. That geologist was pointless yet she probably got paid 3 million.
I'd like to see someone else write TF5. Just to know if Bay's the problem or its the writers. It wouldnt' shock me if its both though.
