Popular with girls? That's what killed Young Justice.

 

If that's true then why hasn't Friendship is Magic gone under yet?

 

the difference is, mattel and cartoon network, care about who buys their stuff.

hasbro doesn't give a damn, and as long as they're profiting, they don't care. lol

i mean, wasn't the reason animaniacs was canned by WB, because it was popular with the wrong demographic? lol

 

It's aimed at girls. The CN execs wanted Young Justice aimed at boys and decided to cancel it because 'girls don't buy toys' a demonstrably false assumption.

Source is Paul Dini, by the way, not rumour or conjecture.

 

They tried that with Young Justice. The toys sucked (the DCUC ones were pretty great, but WAY over-priced), the line tanked, and the show got canceled. Ditto for Thundercats.

The excuse that the show was canceled because girls watched it is bullshit. Read that link, and Dini says the show was cancelled despite the fact that the show had a large female fanbase, but these shows need toy sales to survive and the YJ line just didn't have them. Yes, girls buy toys, but they (and boys) weren't buying YJ.

 

The fact that the female characters were significantly under-represented in the toy lines wouldn't have had anything to do with it. I mean you ha Black canary 4" in wave 2 and she was just the team trainer, you couldn't get Miss Martian separately at all and Artemis was cancelled. No Zatanna, Batgirl, Rocket or Wonder Girl at all. In the 6" figures you had Artemis, and a Miss Martian which I don't think made it to stores. Even if you were lucky enugh to get YJ figures in your store you could only get the boys, basically.

Dinis conversation in the podcast was in the context of Young Justice being cancelled, he was referencing other shows which illustrated the trend. You can say it is bullshit but I'm going to believe what the creator of the show says.

 

So basically all shows that have products that don't sell are 100% fucked is what you're saying.

 

Really, it's a knock on Miss Martian that you had to buy her in a two-pack with her mentor? You also forgot Cheshire. And yeah, all those season two figures were never made cause the line got cancelled from poor sales.

But it didn't matter, the 4" inch line was terrible. Male or female characters, it didn't matter cause they didn't sell. Likewise, the six inch line was entirely overpriced though the one figure that stuck around more than anyone was Artemis. Take that for whatever it's worth.

Here we go again, you can't actually back up your argument, so you're just going to resort to calling me some rabid fanboy.

For shows that are created solely to sell children merchandise, yes.

G.I. Joe Renegades is another. I think the show runner left for some reason, but that line tanked and it just so happened the show ended after season 1.

 

Yeah, fair enough I apologise I'll edit the post.

Also yes, the figures were overpriced. Toy sales were a problem but Dini is also linking it to their notion that girls don't buy toys. Listen to the podcast, the context is clear he starts talking about this issue because of what happened with Young Justice. Toy sales were low, girls were to blame, show cancelled, replaced with a more boy-dominated show, that is the trend he is talking about.

 

Ugh, new Batman cartoon? No thanks.

 

Oh I've read the entire interview...numerous times. I just don't think that what he's saying. I dissected the interview in the Beware the Batman thread, so I'm not going to go into it again. Not saying that there isn't a trend or girls aren't ever blamed, but I just don't see girls being the blame for this particular instance. To take your sentence and modify it a bit; Toys sales were low, the line gets canceled before season 2 even premieres, network sees that show has an unknown sizable (and growing) female fanbase, show cancelled despite this growing fanbase, replaced with silly Teen Titans Go.

 

That would be pretty much the nail on the head.

Two points to add:
1. Paul Dini did not work on Young Justice, so anything he said about it is either hearsay or extrapolation from his own experience on Tower Prep. Not saying that he's definitely wrong, but he was not directly involved in YJ at all.

2. Greg Weisman was one of the YJ show runners, and he has already explained here and here.

Actually, the Renegades toy line wasn't even released until months after the last episode aired. I don't recall the show runners (or the story editors Henry Gilroy and Marty Isenberg) leaving, but the lead character designer died of cancer. And supposedly Hasbro wanted to orient GI Joe going forward toward the then-upcoming second movie. Which turned out not to work out at all.

 

Nothing Hasbro does with GI Joe works at all. Hell, Renegades never got a line. Not really. Yeah, some figures had Renegades card art, but there were never any action figures released that resembled the style of the show's art direction.

In retrospect, I'm okay with that, because I found the show a little underwhelming and thought it fell way short of its potential. Sometimes it felt a little better than it actually was, just for not being Sigma 6 or Extreme.

The Pursuit of Cobra and 30th Anniversary lines were the best things to happen to GI Joe in decades. Maybe since the late 1980s. And the fact that Hasbro couldn't even succeed with the best Joe figures combined with most generous assortment of accessories ever produced is depressing beyond words.

 

Because it sucked.

 

Beware does not Suck. It Just got Good what with Deathstroke in it.

 

Lol no it didn't.

 

Batman News from Legions of Gotham: Mystery Solved - Batman Unlimited is a Direct to DVD!

 

Well That's fine then.

 

This I Am Ok With.

Would be Nice for another Show. But DC does knows DTVs Best.