Avatar 2,3,4 Scripts complete- Production set to begin soon

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    Not quite.

    Unobtainium - Wikipedia
     
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    To be fair, upsidaisium is the funnier name.

    It's probably too whimsically child-like to fit in with all the sci-fi techno-jargon in a movie like Avatar, but Jay Ward was a genius.
     
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    Well, no. Because I already know who is going to win going into those movies. That makes no sense.

    But what does make sense in the context of the Avatar series is that the evil, human, corporate overlords who funded the whole operation to get the magic, space rocks to cool their super computers (only to see billions of dollars of their investment get destroyed because they humored the sappy scientists) will go the easy route next time. Full military strike from the relative comforts of space sounds a lot easier than trying to reengage a direct conflict with the natives.
     
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    Ha! That was interesting, I did not know that. However, it still proves that in the context of the film, it is a silly name. According to the article, unobtainium is a a fictional, or theoretical element which would solve some problem (like cooling your super computers). However, in the context of the film, they already know that it works, because they are actually using it for its discovered purpose (cooling their supercomputers), so it should have some sort of name like: Pandorium, or whatever the marketing department in the evil, corporation has come up with. It would be like if we still referred to Titanium as Unobtainium half a century after we discovered what it is good for.
     
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    How does it make sense, in the context of the 2nd movie in the Avatar series to wipe out all life on the planet in the manner you suggest? A big part of the success of the movie and what brought audiences back for repeat viewings was they wanted to be transported to that beautiful world. There might not be the same appeal when Pandora looks like a giant quarry.

    Realistically, you don't even need soldiers and pilots and those mech things. The whole thing could be done by remote control with drones without bothering to set up characters and conflict. But where's the drama in that. It's a movie.
     
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    Right! And now we can watch that beautiful world get blown up. Dramatically. It would be like the first half of "Independence Day." The good part. Except now humans are on the wrong side of it. That movie made a lot of money. Then the evil corporation in the movie can send the drones in to collect the goods. Because if you don't wipe out the natives first, they may destroy the drones, and that is more money wasted. No other logical choice for them really.
     
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    So Weyland - Yutani?
     
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    Yes, prety much. And it is not a coincidence that Cameron also directed Aliens or that Giovanni Ribisi (in Avatar) is basically playing Paul Reiser's character (in Aliens).
     
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    Okay, so Pandorans obliterated, unobtainium obtained. Where do they go from there? You said this would make sense in the context of a series, but what's left for Avatar 3?
     
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    Short answer: you basically have follow the format of the five original Planet of the Apes movies. Which works out well for Cameron, because it involves time travel and re-using the plots of other movies. And the audience gets to see a pristine version of the planet, and maybe the development of the Navi as a species (depending on how far back they go). Otherwise you have to follow the evil humans to destroy a new planet, which would be dull.
     
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    There's gonna be more than 1 inhabited moon in the planet system going forward - I think one of them is going to be like 95% water.
     
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    Honestly I hope hey don't follow the same storyline as the first film and go explore different stories about the world like it's different mythos and culture. Like how Cirque Du Soleil is doing a show that focuses on the first flight of the Toruk that actually sounds interesting and cool.
     
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    Credit where due, that's a pretty good answer.

    Although not quite what I'm looking for.
     
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    With his deep sea experience, Cameron is better equipped than most to believably depict that.
     
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    Haha. I'll just be happy with the credit then.
     
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    Cameron is out control.
     
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    What if they cancelled the sequels ?
     
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    Hollywood would be down hundreds of millions of dollars, but ultimately the world keeps spinning and life would go on.

    It was12 years between Titanic and Avatar, I won't be surprised if it'll have taken a decade by the time Avatar 2 materialises.

    Look at the time elapsed between Return of the Jedi and the Star Wars prequels. And the decade between the last of those and the first of the new series. 14 years between the poorly regarded Jurassic Park 3 and the smash hit Jurassic World. Regardless of how disinterested people may appear to be right now, when the first trailer drops the buzz will be significant.