Autobot Mutiny in TLK?

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Will there be an Autobot V Autobot battle?

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  3. Isn't there enough going on in this movie?

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  1. Galvatron1998

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    ^^^ Besides The Optimus V Bumblebee Fight ^^^

    The official plot synopsis for The Last Knight states that an unlikely alliance is forged between Cade Yeager (Mark Wahlberg); Bumblebee; an English Lord (Sir Anthony Hopkins); and an Oxford Professor (Laura Haddock). What I find to be interesting is that it calls out Bumblebee alone instead of stating "The Autobots" or something along those lines. If the Autobots stand united throughout the movie than why would they leave them out of the synopsis (unless it's just because people find it easier to identify with Bee than the Autobots). My theory is that at some point in the movie all of the Autobots (minus Bee) join up with Optimus Prime, leaving Bee to venture out on his own.


    None of the Autobots in AoE seemed particularly interested in protecting humanity as pointed out several times before. If they are truly at war with humans, as the trailer presents, then an opportunity to defeat them would not be overlooked.

    So imagine Optimus Prime arrives on Earth and declares that in order for Cybertron to be reborn the Earth will have to be sacrificed in the process. The Autobots, all loyal to Optimus and potentially unaware that he has been infected, could side with him and turn on their current commander, Bumblebee. This would lead to Cade and Bumblebee going into hiding while Optimus continues on with his plan to cyberform Earth.

    Eventually Bee and Cade could somehow With a need for reinforcements Hot Rod, who is said to share a brotherly bond with Bumblebee, and Cogman could be brought in as the replacement Autobots that help Bee go up against Prime's team. We also see that Cade teams up with Lennox at some point, who presumably has some military help backing him up. We could end up with a lineup of Optimus Prime (with Hound, Drift, and Crosshairs) going up against Bumblebee (with Hot Rod, Cogman, Sqweeks, and the human military). A battle between the two could erupt, weakening both sides before the true enemy emerges and begins to cyberform the Earth. So basically it would be:

    1.) Optimus Prime returns to Earth and says he has a way to save Cybertron. Problem is, Earth will have to go. Hound, Crosshairs, and Drift agree to go with him while Bumblebee (past history with humans) disagrees and is chased away.
    2.) Bumblebee looks for reinforcements and recruits Hot Rod and Cogman and eventually Lennox is brought in somehow.
    3.) The two sides eventually face off at the end of the second act before it is revealed that a greater enemy than each other awaits them.

    It's a bit convoluted and some of it makes more sense in my head but I think that a battle between two groups of Autobots is not out of the question. What are your thoughts?
     
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    Something like that might happen, sure. It fits with the whole Civil War trend Hollywood's been doing lately. Heck, we already have Bee vs. Optimus.
    On the other hand, it does seem like we already have enough going on in this film. I think it's more likely that the AoE Autobots will just be separated, captured, and/or even killed, leaving Bumblebee the only one with Cade.
     
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    I think if there's going to be a mutiny it would be within the Decepticons. From the trailers it looks like Megatron was getting in the way of the Decepticons so I wonder if it indicates that the Decepticons lead by Barricade has had enough of Megatron bringing them nothing but ruin and turned on him? Would explain why Megatron isn't seen with them lead so far as well as giving him reason to work with Lennox to stop what's happening with Optimus because at this point he has nothing else going for him. Not to mention it'll give the other Decepticons neede character depth and arc even if it's still not much.
     
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    Will there be an Autobot V Autobot battle?

    According to every trailer I have seen, yes.
     
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    I too wondered as well, why Bumblebee was the only Transformer mentioned in the synopsis, but I agree with you, instead of the Autobots willingly helping Optimus they will all get infected with Dark Energon instead and you theory could also explain aswell, why it was Just Bumblebee with cade vs prime fighting and why was Drift,Crosshairs and Hound not helping Bee and Cade.
     
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    I don't think there will be an Autobot mutiny. It was a short synopsis with 2 familiar names to counter two new unfamiliar names.
    I think when Lennox is talking with Megatron, the other Autobots go with him, while Bee tries to stymie evil Optimuswith Cade.
    I also recall ALOT of set pictures where Bee is leading the other Autobots, over in England, which obviously is later on in the movie.
    They also seem to be setting Bee up to officially become the next Autobot leader either as a Knight or young Prime.

    Ontop of all that, the Autobots are NOT going to follow someone (Prime) who tries to kill one of their own (Bee). Optimus is on a mission to raise that Omega Lock, merge Earth supposedly with the dead Cybertron,allowing for the creators to gain control of all sentient life forms (be they Cybertronian or Earthling) and kill those who refuse to bend to their will. The other Autobots are not dumb, they're going to see Optimus is under the control of these ahole creators (as I'm sure Crosshairs would probably refer to them,lol) and try to stop him.
    They're not going to join with someone who is being controlled by an evil entity that wants to ultimately destroy them. That's more than likely why they go to Megatron to try and sway him to help stop Optimus and the creators. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" looks to be the card they're playing with Megs. So, the only Bot v Bot I see happening in this movie is Bee, Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Roddy and Cogmanwith versus evil Optimus.

    Hopefully, the next clips/trailers that they release will show alot more of the other Autobots as well as Megatron.
     
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    After reading and good reading at that, i would think this is a way to explain the "rethink your hero's" slogan
     
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    I think it's far more likely there's a Decepticon mutiny against Megatron than an Autobot one. I definitely don't see guys like Drift or Hound in a mutiny.

    One, they're Decepticons.

    Two, Optimus Prime doubts his leadership abilities in this film. I think Megatron is too egotistical to do such a thing at this point in time, but his Decepticons could be annoyed with their situation in many ways, and that could be the Decepticons "rethinking their hero."

    Last, but definitely not least, is the Quintessons are now in the mix. AOE has elements of Five Faces of Darkness Part 1; this new movie may have elements from the later parts of FFOD as well as Dark Awakening.

    I noted yesterday in another thread that in TFWiki's set report it refers to Onslaught as "Big bad Onslaught." It's kind of interesting he was referred to as "Big bad" given that set reveal noted some other spoiler-ish details. Is Onslaught the main villain or one of two main villains? What if some Decepticons, perhaps lead by Onslaught, have allied themselves with the Quintessons and betray Megatron? That would advance the story of the Decepticons and Quintessons and potentially connect some Decepticons with Optimus' current state. That would fit with Onslaught's history in the brand as being a strategic mind. That would also fit Lorenzo's information about the villain being someone new and a new form of Decepticon; Quintesson-allied Decepticons would be new forms of Decepticons.
     
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    However Barricade still has the the motto "keep calm and hail Megatron" by the time the crew is in london, which means that their may not be a mutiny within the cons.
     
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    The Official TLK bio describes Barricade as being "duplicitous". I take that as being two-faced, which leads me to believe he's deceiving one of the villains while working for the other villain.
    Since he has "Keep Calm and Hail Megatron" emblazoned on his rear quarter panels, I'm guessing he's deceiving Megatron.
     
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    I think your are putting to much thought into it. Duplicitious also means deception, as in DECEPTIcon.
     
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    Maybe, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
     
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    I have no idea why people think there will be a Decepticon mutiny in the film. I don't know that your theory will be the case, but it's certainly a lot more believable to me, and it even sounds really interesting and keeping with the characters of the AOE Autobots, in a way. You've certainly put a lot of thought into it, and I could definitely see it happening.
     
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    It was mutiny I tell ya! The crew tied me up n took me share of gold!