i bought autobot/decepticon clones the other day offf a guy on ebay recieved my package today opened it up to find these friggin fake clone all plastic quality of plastic is sghite rub signs dont even work. how do i go about this report them straight to ebay or try and get my money back first as they were advertised as original g1 clones please advise.... thank you
I'd contact the seller first & try to resolve the issue between the two of you, but make sure you save all you emails just in case. Then if the seller is unresponsive I'd go to ebay & explain the situation, you shouldn't have a problem getting your money back. Do you have a link to the auction? I'd like to check them out, I've never seen KOs of these before.
well ive tried the link is no longer working and the seller gave me my money bk ill try and describe tho plastic was very cheap no stickers applied wht so ever my original ones are dated 1986 these copies are dated 1987 ill do some pics if you want
You sure about those 1986 dates stamps? The clones were released in 1987 and most of the time stampings match the release years.
hmmmm after my first post yeah now im just intrested ill put up the pics cams a bit funny today but here goes....pics of wingspan by the way.... one is hasbro 1987, takara co.ltd, 1987 japan the other hasbro 1986, takara co.ltd 1986 macau
I thought those were just the Chinese release (legit not KO) Goto this link and go down to the where it says clones it's about half way down the page. I believe this is what you are talking about. Chinese Transformers!
hmmmmm just checked these infact have the rub signs those chinese ones dont versions dont have rub signs just decepticon signs
The Hasbro stamp looks legit enough... Though the Decepticon logos look kinda like the ones from the TFCs....
The stamping doesn't indicate it's a bootleg. There was a transition in manufacturing location at the time and many '87 and '86 figures came stamped differently. I've seen this more commonly on Aerialbots, of which I've had more pass through my hands than Clones. Are there other reasons you believe Wingspan to be a fake?
just the the quality of plastic and the colouring of the plastic not as deep lighter in colour but not like straight off you do have to look at the figures carefully to see the difference in colour but the quality of platic is different
the stamping definitely looks legit, and those are not the late chinese reissue either, because if that's the case the country name will be blocked out. Toys made in Macau uses a different plastic material comparing to the one made in japan, and yes, the Macau plastic is not as good as the early plastic. They are still legit g1 toys, because most of the late g1 era toys were made in Macau or Taiwan. Color is never a good indication, because toys could get yellowed/faded over the years. Also, the chinese transformers did come with the rubsigns, but again those could also fall off over the years. So if your orignal one is the Japan one(1986), and the one you bought from the seller is the Macau one(1987), there will be plastic quality differences between the two, but the macau one is definitely not a KO
