ATTENTION: third party toys banned from BotCon 2012 / FAN ART NOW ALLOWED AGAIN

Discussion in 'Transformers Conventions and Get Togethers' started by Sidecutter, Feb 8, 2012.

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  1. InfernoX

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    I don't like this change either, but venting on a message board until you're blue in the face won't matter one bit if you're still going to the con. They will have your money and in the end that is the only thing they care about. Speak with your wallet folks.
     
  2. Hobbes-timus Prime

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    Kre-O is not IP theft.

    I understand the desire to take shots at Hasbro over frustrations...but there are rules. This is not 'Nam.
     
  3. ZacWilliam

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    The fact is Hasbro owns the TF IP. Anyone using it to create professional product without liscense is stealing from them, plain and simple.

    Why the heck would they let folks come into their metaphorical living room and steal from them in front of their face?

    -ZacWilliam, you may like the toys, you may want the toys, but if you think that means Hasbro should have to bend over and let themselves be ripped off, you're being a rediculous entitled child.
     
  4. Murasame

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    I welcome this.
    I couldn't care less, because I will probably never ever have the chance to visit BotCon and sometimes third party stuff looks at least interesting. But I think it has gotten really out of hand.
     
  5. Creaky

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    Time for a Botcon Hotel Speakeasy?

    You gotta get the password, find the room and then enter a wonderful world of illicit merchandise, 'coffee', Bot Shots Drinking Games and fabulous Cabaret.
     
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    Yeah maybe, BUT - by signing the contract, have you now given them the RIGHT to bypass that and just take your stuff?

    And I totally understand them not wanting the 3rd party stuff there - it's a Hasbro run Con, that's their right. I just kinda feel bad for folks that DO have alot of that stuff to offer and now cannot, unless it's in their hotel room. I don't sell alot of 3rd party stuff at shows, but if I DID I'd be annoyed that some of my rather desirable product was now in "violation" at a popular show.
     
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    I'm not upset. I can still purchase my third party items the same way I've been getting them. Sucks to be a dealer though.
     
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    They only have Bumblebee in all of his repaint/overpack lunacy for that.

    Overall, this just reaffirms my decision to skip Botcon this year.
     
  9. Tomiku

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    While I can certainly see why Hasbro is doing such a thing, I don't have to LIKE it, nor do I agree with the wording or methods. Pretty glad now I didn't have plans to attend Botcon anyway.
     
  10. TacomaPrime

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    I'm not going to con, but still. 3rd party stuff is pretty darn cool. I think they could handle this a little better, like maybe working with the 3rd party companies somehow. I mean look at how cool some of the 3rd party stuff is.
     
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    Not attending, but certainly sucks for the vendors.
     
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    ^^^ FTW!!
     
  13. Optimist_Prime

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    Does anyone think Hasbro will make the same restrictions at TFCON?
     
  14. ZacWilliam

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    Yeah.

    1) Lego is based on an other earlier block.

    2) IIRC The design is now public domain.


    -ZacWilliam, pretty silly idea given how many off type Legos are legally around.
     
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    I think we're witnessing the death of BotCon.
     
  16. General Tekno

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    Except Lego's patents expired awhile back. Which is why everybody can make imitation blocks now.

    Lego's stuff does well still on the strength of the reputation/brand name/sets/licenses.
     
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    Well, my list of things to get, or even look for, in the dealer room just changed quite a bit.

    The good news out of this, for me, is that I'll spend significantly less money in the dealer room than I had planned on. That's not really good news for anyone else.
     
  18. Chris McFeely

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    Well, it's not an official convention, so Hasbro have no say in what they do. Potentially, one supposes, Hasbro could decide not to attend unless they banned 3rd party items, but that's about the height of the influence they could have over it.
     
  19. ZacWilliam

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    Never gonna happen. Too many people love TFs and 98% of them couldn't care less about this.


    -ZacWilliam, yeah, very "chicken little"...
     
  20. ae_productions

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    Hasbro just laid off 10% of their entire workforce. The fault is 100% their own.

    However, instead of blaming themselves, they will lash out at some "external foe." This happens all the time.

    Third party products are the easiest target for Hasbro.

    Hasbro doesn't want to "cater" to collectors. Third party companies step up and fill that void. Third party companies flourish (not all, but the majority have), and Hasbro takes a large YTD loss.

    This is the beginning of the end of third party products. And when they're gone, and Hasbro is still not listening to their fans and still losing money, they will lay off more low level employees and find someone else to blame.
     
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