AOE "Critics" TV Spot

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  1. Grimlockimus

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    Practically true in EVERY way! Massive middle finger to the mean critics all the way.
     
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    That's not a middle finger at all, really. Every single movie puts out a TV Spot like this.

    They're not exactly going to put in their trailer "Critics are saying "Terrible, just terrible", "It just refuses to end"" anyway.
     
  4. 03Mach1

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    Just quotes from reviewers who don't have their panties in a bunch. I can't wait to see it on Sunday.
     
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    You know what would have been funny? If they had aired a critics tv spot incorporating the 'bad' quotes, and still see this movie make over a billion dollars.

    But yeah, this is pretty standard for movies. :) 
     
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    Fight Club did this. Except the billion dollar part.
     
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    Funny how they lump all the crits together by saying "the" instead of "few".
     
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    They quote one critic twice (probably not a very good critic) and then quote someone from a spanish channel.

    Yes they always do this and yes if you look closely it's often laughable.

    Sometimes they've caught trailer people misquoting people or even making up critics.

    Also, obscure critics will give good reviews in exchange for having their names featured.
     
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    Provocative and Mind-Blowing?... Okay, that's rather accurate.
     
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    It's actually just 2 critics (they reuse the same dude for the 3rd quote) who they flew in to Hong Kong for the premiere.
     
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    Just a heads up, but critics slammed the '86 movie, too. Critics like The English Patient and Schindler's List. Stuff that can make them feel intelligent, cultured, or on the right side of some social issue for liking. There will never be a movie about sentient, giant robots at war with each other that becomes a darling of the critics. Regardless of the robots' characterizations. Regardless of the dialogue. Regardless of the plot. Regardless of the acting. It will never, ever happen. The people waiting for it to happen are the worst kind of deluded.

    Meanwhile, these movies will continue to entertain the masses without film school degrees in professional pretension, and will continue to make billions of dollars.
     
  13. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    I find it hilarious how two of the things "critics" say are from the same source. :lol 
     
  14. Afterburner

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    This post is complete fallacy. Critics like Lord of the Rings, Batman, Spider Man, X-Men, all Marvel movies, Harry Potter, the Conjuring, etc etc etc. They like all kinds of films and all kinds of films get fresh ratings all of the time. All kinds of Blockbusters get good ratings - Edge of Tomorrow, Days of Future Past, Godzilla, etc etc etc. Even the vapid, inane Fast and Furious movies have some good ratings.

    Transformers is the only one that consistently gets absolutely terrible ratings. There is a reason for this and it isn't conspiracy, and it isn't the fact they are popular and critics hate that. It is the fact they are terrible movies. The ones who need to accept this fact most are the ones unable to do so, either by choice or ability. That is why the movies continue to make money.

    However, there is a limit to stupid - Jurassic Park 3, X-Men 3, Batman and Robin - all have hurt their franchises. TransFormers will be no different, at least in America. China may buy in thanks to the over-inclusion (which is no more than shameless pandering). Attendance is already trending down - the only reason DOTM did good box office was the additional receipts for IMAX and 3D, which the prior movies didn't have. In attendance, it was down. This one will be as well.

    This entertainment is not free. You are paying someone for it. Since most movies cost the same, why would an intelligent person choose to spend their money on something anyone with a camera could make versus something somebody tried really, really, really hard to make into something great and enjoyable? Why appreciate something that was made without thought or care - it is like buying a crumbly burnt hamburger made out of hoof meat instead of a top sirloin, perfectly grilled, juicy hamburger even when they cost the same.

    The simple fact is putting on "blinders" just to "enjoy" a movie shouldn't be required for $10. You can also go over to Iraq and see plenty of explosions for free if you want. You're championing sexism, racism, ignorance, petty nationalism, and all others kinds of outdated ways of thinking by supporting these films. These films are stuck in decades past, and not in a nostalgicly cool kind of way but in some of the worst ways imaginable.

    Cinema is not merely a feast for the eyes and ears, it is a feast for the mind. Sad that so many people fail to understand that.

    Beyond that these movies have a second problem - they aren't even a good adaptation of TF to the big screen. If the film quality was bad but the TF accuracy rich and layered, it would be more understandable why some TF fans choose to support it anyway. But the fact they are terrible cinema while at the same time being terrible adaptations of the source material (especially in the character and design realms) one has to wonder if they filmed a cgi turd, made it flash colors and explode to loud rock music every minute, and called it TF5, if it wouldn't have the same box office as TF4. I mean logically, you're getting the exact same movie.

    The best part about this is how "new" and "fresh" this was going to be - learn your lesson now, people. This is Michael Bay - he is a terrible Director and doesn't care about it - which means he will never get better. And he is a compulsive liar - I stopped believing his lies immediately after TF1 and was suspicious in the first place anyway. If you want to check it out because you believe what he (or the other marketers) say, you've lost your ability to read anything for truth.
     
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    Oh, yeah, you're right. I forgot all the sentient fighting robots in those movies.

    And not all critics liked the Nolan Batman films, particularly the last one. Nor did the critics like all the Spider-man films. And even fewer critics like the majority of the X-Men films.

    And "ALL Marvel movies?!" LOL Those must be kick-ass goggles you are wearing.


    :rolleyes: 

    What's particularly eye-rolling is you saying that after bringing up the Marvel movies.
     
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    03Mach1 Logic has been replaced with blind ignorance.

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    If I wanted a 'feast for the mind', I'd read a book. Until then, I'll keep going to the movies to be entertained. Which is the whole reason movies existed in the first place.
     
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    So like 3 of 100?

    You can hate on critics just like most of us hate on Bay, but that doesn't discount the consensus on the movie thus far.
     
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    03Mach1 Logic has been replaced with blind ignorance.

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    Movies have always been a 'sum of its parts' venture for me. If it's an overall rewarding experience, I can overlook some parts. As much as I like Raiders, Star Wars, Jurassic Park, etc, etc, etc, they were not universally praised by critics. I like movies. I'll continue to like them regardless what a critic says to fill an article or sell web site hits.
     
  19. Ra88

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    Yeah, because elves, dwarves, men in iron suits, flying men with hammers, people with genetic mutations that give them control over weather and magnetism, a guy who swings from building to building in his pyjamas with webs shooting out of his wrists, wizards and a guy dressed like a goddamn bat who fights crime are all far more believable to critics than giant robots.

    Also, before you break out the 'toy commercial can never be good' argument: The most popular type of movies right now are based on comic books. And try to remember that comics used to be taken about as seriously as toys. ;)  Oh, and maybe try having some faith in the franchise you're fan of for a change. Because believing that Bay's take on the movies is about as good as it will ever get is just silly.
     
  20. Starscream Gaga

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    Using the % of positive reviews collected on Rotten Tomatoes...

    Iron Man- "Fresh" 93%
    The Incredible Hulk- "Fresh" 67%
    Iron Man 2- "Fresh" 73%
    Thor- "Fresh" 77%
    Captain America- "Fresh" 79%
    Avengers- "Fresh" 92%
    Iron Man 3- "Fresh" 78%
    Thor 2- "Fresh" 62%
    Captain America 2- "Fresh" 89%


    "Majority"

    X-Men- "Fresh" 82%
    X2- "Fresh" 87%
    X-Men 3- "Rotten" 58%
    X-Men Origins- "Rotten" 38%
    X-Men First Class- "Fresh" 87%
    Wolverine- "Fresh" 69%
    Days of Future Past- "Fresh" 92%

    Two out of seven is not the majority by any stretch of the imagination and the two that were panned were both legitimately awful. Its not the fact that they are super-hero-esque action movies with alien robots that Transformer films are critically panned, its because they're mediocre at best. The plot, dialogue and acting are all passable to awful in all three films. They do not get good reviews because they do not earn good reviews.

    Those must be some kick-ass goggles you're wearing.

    While the "one's less believable and better for critics then the other" is a stupid debate, both X-Men Days of Future Past and Thor had "sentient fighting robots" and the Iron Man films aren't exactly far off the concept. Ludicrous concepts are behind the plots of nearly every great action/fantasy/sci-fi movie.

    Everyone likes some "bad" films, myself included (although none of the three you mentioned were particularly badly received). Being critically panned doesn't make them unlikable to everyone and no one is saying it does, so no idea where you're coming from. I enjoyed AOE and I'm even going to see it again in the cinema, but it had shoddy human "drama", a very badly acted lead role (Tessa), bloated length, an awkwardly paced third Act and bad editing and its a critics job to not to ignore those kinds of things. As much as I enjoyed it, it didn't deserve good reviews.