Anyone who says Prime is bad for killing Megatron...

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by OptimusPancake, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. 13 Primes

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    I'm Sorry this is so long :eek: 

    Because Bone crusher was Trying to kill him and was Going after the allspark

    By the Time Optimus Was Called in Demolishor Was Killing a ton of People
    And Optimus asked him to Pull over first

    Because Starscream was Trying too Kill Him and he was out numbered


    Again Because Grindor was Trying to kill him And he was out numbered


    Megatron killed him once and was trying to blow up our sun
    and Megatron was fighting Optimus trying to kill him again

    The first decepticon and Probable the Hardest to take down so Optimus
    Took him down hard and fast

    Um.. Jetfire sacrificed himself don't know What that has to do with Optimus?

    They had to leave, I forgot Sentinels exact words but I thought he told the humans in the audio message to deny the autobots and "we'll take what resources we need and then leave you'r planet peacefully" which of course he lied.

    Because they were killing thousands of humans and were trying
    to take over his new home after they destroyed his last one
    and he would not let it Happen again

    Because the driller was ripping through the building sam was in
    And would have continued to rampage though the whole city

    Optimus was defending the Autobots and soldiers that they were shooting at
    and they were shooting at him as well thats not murder thats defending in
    my own Opinion

    If Optimus Hadn't A Lot of Nest soldiers would have died and Autobots
    And shockwave shot at him First so Optimus was just stopping him

    A truce That made sure Megatron was in charge, meaning
    I'm in charged and i'll kill you if you think otherwise.
    Megatron then Mocks Optimus by saying,
    "Besides Who would you be without me Prime"
    Optimus only had one arm and this was his chance to end
    Megatron's tyranny and to stop him from ever again destroying the lives of both autobots and humans, and any planet Megatron no doubt would have tried to conquer after earth. Optimus saw his chance and took it, he hit him hard and fast
    Before Megatron could finish him off

    Sentinel Wasn't begging for his Life, in my opinion he was
    still trying to get Optimus too see that he was right
    for wanting to enslave us, and killing ironhide
    was for the greater good, and that joining with the enemy was the only
    way. In my opinion if some one is begging for their life they would say
    Please don't kill me I'm sorry just don't kill me, If he said something like
    Q had said when the autobots were captured, then that would be begging to me, but sentinel didn't even say he was sorry.
    Nope Just A Defender of Justice but thats My own opinoin
    and I respect Your's As Well :D 
     
  2. Megabattimus

    Megabattimus Same As It Ever Was

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    Fixed to justify and put what Optimus did into perspective. Seriously, if he really was a homicidal maniac he would be running around killing anyone, whether they be Autobot or Decepticon, while he shouts "YEAH, FACES" or some bullshit like that. He's in a war, killing is something that happens.

    The fandom just blows it out of proportion. But, then again, this is the fandom that came up with things like "TRUKK NOT MUNKY", "RUINED FOREVER", and "GEEWUNNER", and the same fandom that starts fights over characters names being different; so the whole "Optimus is a psycho" thing shouldn't surprise me.

    I find it funny, that people hate Movie Optimus because he kills and yet they have no problem with TFP Optimus, who until episode 23 was pretty much a carbon copy of G1 Prime. In episode 23, Optimus pretty turned into Movie Optimus and no one batted an eyelid. Come on fandom, your either against the idea of Optimus killing or your for it, you can't be both. You can't say that you hate Movie Prime because he kills and then say you don't hate TFP Prime, because they do the exact same thing.

    And I know that I'm going to get flamed, but it had to said.
     
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    ^13 Primes beat you to the punch.
     
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    Megabattimus Same As It Ever Was

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    You may feel that way, but Optimus sure doesn't. That's why he's fighting so hard and so brutally, to protect and avenge good people. And you can't tell me that you haven't met people that you care for or would defend.

    Mako Crab: I don't know about you, but I'd revel in the deaths of unrepentant monsters. I guess that's why I dislike Rodimus here.
     
  6. Bountyan

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    Hey, I'm fine with Optimus, and I even agree with some of the stuff you guys are saying. I'm just listing all possible reasons why people could call him a homicidal maniac and how it isn't completely crazy to call him that. Not surprising people are when most other Optimus Primes would barely kill anyone, while this one kills them left and right without any hesitation. Homicide is still homicide, whether it is justified or not. Doesn't help any justification if he's yelling "YOU DIE HERE" or "GIVE ME YOUR FACE."
     
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    He's got more in common with an overexcited cop than Ted Bundy.
     
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    Don't think you have to worry about being flamed. It's all pretty civil here.

    I don't know about others' opinions, but I don't care that Optimus kills. I never had a problem with it. It's war. There's going to be killing.

    HOWEVER,

    There is a big difference, A BIG DIFFERENCE, in the way TFP Prime is portrayed as compared to how Bay Prime is portrayed. And again:

    Here's how I kind of look at it:

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    in the comic adaptation of the same story Hot Rod never interfered, and Optimus still failed to kill Megatron.

    if he was REALLY about to kill Megatron wehy wait so long from the time he picked up his gun?

    name 1 confirmed killed Decepticon from the 86 film by Optimus.
     
  10. AlexaStar

    AlexaStar Starscream is love

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    To me, it's not the fact that he kills (it's a war, you're gonna have to kill some of the people you're fighting).

    It's how he goes about it that makes me uncomfortable. He shouldn't be so gung-ho about it and tear the Decepticons' bodies apart. As an Autobot, perceived to humans as the "good robots", he should kill the Decepticons as quickly as possible without causing them too much pain, no matter how much he or others feel they may deserve that pain.

    The "Give me your face!!!" in Revenge of The Fallen was a line that was quite unnecessary. He didn't have to be that way.

    I still feel for poor Demolishor at the beginning of that movie though, especially since his toy bio stated that he took some of the smaller Decepticons under his wing.
     
  11. TylerMirage

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    STV raises a good point. Optimus killed...well, uh... technically nobody. He ran them over, bowled through them, shot at them, threw them around, blew them apart. And then 3 minutes later they're all running into Astrotrain's caboose. Movie Optimus makes his hits count. Same actions, "cartoon" vs. "real world" outcomes. I'm sure you could potentially chalk it up to trying to "stun" the Decepticons, rather than full on "eliminate" them. But again, it goes back to the contrast in mediums. Possibly slowing down/distracting the 'Cons in the middle of an invaded Chicago doesn't really make sense.
     
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    The reason Prime didn't kill in 1986 had nothing to with lack of trying. He just sucked at being an actual soldier.
     
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    thank you
     
  14. Regressor

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    It took him 23 episodes to realize that. Wow he's a little slow aint he?
     
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    Yep. For once, I would like to have an Optimus who realizes that from the beginning, but even Bayformers Optimus had a movie of "you left me no choice, brother" nonsense.
     
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