Anyone love a good "who done it?"

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  1. ILoveDinobot

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    So, I have a real life 'murder' case that will bother me, probably forever.

    My grandfather was murdered I assume, because this is all so strange to me. I will try to add as much details as I can. I want input. Also, this is true and legit, but also, none of it really matters any more, so have with it.

    I'll start with my list of suspects:
    The in home aide (least likely, but I will make her a suspect anyway).
    The old folks home
    My mom
    My Aunt (mom's older sister)

    So, a little background, my grandparents were 90 years old, this happened in 2011. In the 90's they moved from Queens, NY to West Palm Beach, FL (55+ community). They met when they were 11 and grew up together, dated in high school, married, etc. Their parents all Russian citizens, who came through Ellis Island. Their parents spoke the Russian dialect Yiddish, my grandparents spoke it fluently to each other. This might be important because it might have all started as a hate crime (it was very obvious they were Jewish).

    To start, they loved to walk and exercise. They were crossing the street at their 55+ condo community when they were hit by a car, by grandfather was thrown to a curb and my grandmother lay in the middle of the road screaming. My grandfather screamed, but the driver realizing they weren't dead backed up and ran over my grandmother again killing her (I feel bad my grandfather had to witness this, as they been in love for 80 years). The car couldn't get over my grandfather again as he was on the curb now. The police came and my grandfather insisted the car was his next door neighbor's car, he even saw him driving. The police questioned the neighbor who said it wasn't him. There was no investigation (I mean it was West Palm Beach). The guy went off free. My 1st thought, hate crime or just the guy was old/crazy.

    After being released from the hospital my grandfather needed in home care. A woman named Rosa, I will assume she was a Spanish woman, possibly an immigrant, knowing the area. (yes this matters, I'll get to it.) So, my grandfather loved Rosa, he said she was so kind to him, he was grateful for her, etc. Now, my grandparents were ALWAYS very charitable people, donating everything, making furniture for low income people, my grandmother sewing clothes for homeless, etc. [this ends Rosa's story, except after he passed he left everything, all my family heirlooms/jewelry, etc to Rosa, my mom was annoyed as she said he promised it to her?].

    My grandfather gets really bad after a few months and goes to go to an old folks home to live in, both my mom and her sister were paying for it together. 1 day I am in the kitchen eating breakfast, my mom in the shower. Her phone rings, I hear the voicemail sound. When she gets out I go "Mom, someone left you a voicemail while you were in the shower". She checks it and it's my grandfather saying "how can you do this to me?" She was like "what is he going on about?" and called the old folks home. They said "we are sorry your father died last night and he couldn't have left you a message he got pneumonia and had a tube in his throat." My mom was like "no, he literally just left me a message 10 minutes ago" and again the olds folks home said "no, he didn't".

    My mom called my aunt, and my aunt said "i got the same voicemail". My mom was like "oh well, guess he's dead". And showed no cares.

    In the will my Aunt being the older sister was supposed get all the money and split it with my mom. She never split it, my mom had to sue her and get her inheritance. Now, they were BEST friends, they met up all the time and talked on the phone every single day. For my aunt to just cut my mom off and not give her money and wouldn't answer her calls, etc. shady AF.

    So, either my aunt KNEW my grandfather was sick and on a tube, like the old folks home called the older sister and said "here's the situation, he got sick last night we have him on a tube" and my aunt said "just pull the plug" bc she wanted money. Then the old folks home said to my grandfather "your daughters said to pull the plug". And my grandfather called them both and said "how can you do this to me?" or the old folks home did it on their own. But, why wouldn't the old folks home tell my mom "your sister said it was ok to pull the plug", if it was my aunt's decision? Why did they say "He couldn't have left you a message, he died last"? he clearly left the message while I was in the kitchen.

    So who done it?
     
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  2. MetalRyde

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    Hm. Difficult to say.

    Could be the Aunt or the old folks home.

    I select the old folks home.
     
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  3. ILoveDinobot

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    I think so too, I feel like it was something like they probably raised the prices and needed to kill off those who were paying the old rate.
     
  4. Drangleic

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    This is indeed a mystery. I don't have the answer. Sorry @ILoveDinobot
     
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  5. Sylent

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    I'm perplexed at the above. It sounds like a lawsuit if you establish the timeline... or I'm missing something. Then, your mom has a ho-hum attitude about her father's passing??
     
  6. ILoveDinobot

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    Is it too late for a lawsuit? This happened about 9 years ago.

    Yes, my mom is a psychopath. Like a psychopath in the literal sense, not a sociopath. (That is why she is a suspect too). She would totally kill her parents and not feel bad about it. But, I was with her when the confusion of his death happened. She really didn't know. Still can't rule her out. She wanted that money. She was upset grandpa gave stuff to Rosa.
     
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  7. Sylent

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    There's no statute of limitations on murder, so if you gather the proper evidence and establish a timeline, you could have a case.
     
  8. Sixwing

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    That really sucks. I don't really know how to respond to this. I hope you can find out who did it, and get some closure. Sounds like the nursing home to me.
     
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  9. Laser_Optimus

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    Yikes, that's a lot. I'm perplexed why there was never an investigation into your grandma's hit and run. As far as your grandfather my guess would be the nursing home like everyone else is saying. There's been plenty of reports in the news within the last ten to fifteen years of these types of places doing shady shit that leads intentionally or unintentionally to the death of our elderly loved ones.
     
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  10. ILoveDinobot

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    Apparently, hit and runs, and crime are normal in west palm beach. Cops really don't care down in that town. It's one of those areas.
     
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    I mean the voicemail has been long deleted besides my mom and me giving an account, I got nothing.
     
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    You know... I've lived in Florida since I was ten and just realized I've never been down there. I have heard that crime is pretty rampant there, but the thought of the cops not even bothering to investigate when there's an eye witness and they only have the guy's word saying he didn't do it? That's just mind-boggling.

    Are there any records from the nursing home? Again, this seems weird because I would think they'd need more than a verbal consent from your aunt if she had indeed given the okay to take him off life support.
     
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  13. ILoveDinobot

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    Right? When it happened I was thinking going down there and taking care of the neighbor myself, I was so fucking mad this asshole got away with it.



    No, nothing. Anything would have been sent to my aunt as it wasn't sent to my mom. And her house burned down and she lost everything a few years ago (from what my cousin told me, since I haven't talked to my aunt since the whole situation [my mom cut us off and aunt doesn't have a facebook, she is living with my cousin now though]).
     
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    That's interesting, I hope you can solve it. And though it's been long ago, still sorry for your loss and the circumstances :( 
     
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    Thanks. I am happy they got to live a long life together. I am sad they had more time together that was forcefully cut short, and my grandfather fought in WWII, but still was able to make it so long is an accomplishment. I can only hope to live so long as to see my greatgrandchildren as they were able to.
     
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    I hope you figure it out I'm sorry for your loss
     
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    Did your aunt have a power of attorney to make that decision, or was there a living will that gave her that power? And how did Rosa get the stuff - was she in the will?

    You might be able to do a civil case in the case of your grandmother, like OJ Simpson's former in-laws did to him after he was acquitted. At least get the police report and/or coroners report.

    Then take what you find to a lawyer and see if there's anything they can advise. One at a free law clinic should be able to do at least that if you can find one.

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