Anyone looking forward to this more than any Marvel or DC movies?

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  1. TUROK1134

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    Yeah, but I was never a huge fan of the MCU to begin with. Most of them are mildly enjoyable, but I tend to forget about them the moment I leave the theater.

    As for the DC movies, Man of Steel was awesome, but it was downhill from there.
     
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    I am looking forward to this because before comics I was a TF fan.
     
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    I've got a good track record with Marvel/Disney so I'll be there the first showing on opening Friday for all of them. I don't have a great track record with Sony but I've been a Spider Man fan since I was old enough to know what a superhero is so no way that I can pass up opening day for my favorite superhero.

    DC. Okay this might come back to bite me in the butt later on but I'm actually excited for Wonder Woman after being bitterly disappointed up to this point. The marketing team has done an excellent job of selling this time will be different and what I'm looking for in a superhero movie. Plus it never hurts to help the box office on female lead films so it can get in those thick Hollywood skulls we like female characters that kick ass.

    Transformers, sadly the marketing team hasn't done anything to make me think this time is different. So I'll see it either when it hits something like Netflix or it hits HBO during the Game of Thrones months. There are bits I actually like about the Transformers films but there isn't enough like to justify a theater trip or a rental.
     
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    I love all the superhero movies coming out, but none of them even compare to my excitement for TF5.
     
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    I will still be there opening night for TLK but in all honesty at this point I'm a lot more excited by the Marvel movies or even the next Jurassic World.
     
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    Nope... As much as I really enjoy the fun & bayhem from the TF franchise.... the MCU & DCEU have much more interest for me this year.
     
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    Been a lifelong Transformers fan, so yes these movies are the my favourite and most anticipated ever.

    A close second are stuff like Pacific Rim, Star Wars or any other alien/space travel/time travel/science fiction ones.

    I really enjoyed both Guardians of the Galaxy movies, but somehow the other Marvel and DC Earth-based superhero human ones don't really pump me up as much.
     
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    Lol, isn't this kind of question should be on forum like Superherohype, not a forum about Transformers?
    Of course Transformers is my #1 favorite, then DC. Can't stand those shitty Marvel movies. This kind of taste must be trashed by majority of Internet folks.
     
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    Marvel? No. DC? Yes.

    Bay definitely has a distinct visual style, yes. Although, some of that has to do with ILM and other digital companies (including his own) bringing those designs to life. Sometimes, as static images, they're just visual mayhem and look more like a Picasso on acid, rather than a cohesive robot at times.

    The human characters are more relatable, yes. They feel more human because they are human.
    That's the thing about Marvel and DC movies, they're not human, they're superhuman. They're meant to be more. They're meant to be an ideal to look to. They're meant to be superheroes. That's why on a lot of levels they work better than characters such as Sam and Mikaela, but sometimes less than Cade and Lennox.

    Sometimes, we need the superheroes to give us hope. Sometimes we need the outlandish and the fantastic to take our attention away from the cares of the world. Transformers is outlandish at it's core, but it uses a lot of reality to try and ground it. There might be giant alien robots, but the human characters and their strife sometimes hit a little too close to home, rather than distract us from our own cares and worries.

    Cade worrying about keeping a roof over his family's head? We all worry about that.
    Real soldiers being used in the film? Remind us of the great lengths they go to for our freedoms.
    Getting our first date/girlfriend like Sam? We've all been there in some form or another.

    We go to these films to see the Transformers, but usually, come away seeing how close certain aspects are to real life.
    We go to the Marvel and DC films because they have a small basis in reality and tackle real issues, but then take us to fantastic heights and go places we'd never really imagine we could go to.

    There's room for both, but I'd say Marvel does it better than Transformers and DC. I say that as a die-hard fan of Transformers. I love the property, the characters, the mythos, but even I can admit when someone does it better. To say otherwise is not only lying to others but more importantly, to myself. Nothing good comes from telling yourself a lie.
     
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    I've never cared for comic books or the recent surge in comic book movies.

    The first Iron Man was alright, as was The Winter Soldier. But I can't say I've seen them all.
     
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    I can't agree with this I don't think Marvel does anything better than DC or Transformers. I don't care about IW anymore I was excited back in 2012, but all the build up to it doesn't matter because the road there was so terribly done. My issue is that nothing matters to the narrative.

    Hydra is revealed to have infiltrated the government's of the world and influenced the last few decades. This is huge yet it doesn't matter after Hydra is beaten the world goes on, it doesn't change at all. This should shake the world yet it doesn't, after WS Hydra becomes irrelevant are even treated as jokes, the only character this revelation affects is Steve and he didn't trust the government anyway thanks to avengers. The Hydra reveal barely means anything. Thor TDW ends with Loki usurping Odin and no one knowing it, a lot of great possibilities here, yet in Ragnarok Thor almost immediately discovers it's him (he has to or the plot can't start) and goes off to find Odin, no exploration of Loki's reign or anything, what was the point of the twist? Drax just ignores his character development, IM 3 Tony gives up being IM to be with pepper, in AOU he's IM with no explanation, later he and Pepper break up rendering their story pointless, same with Thor and Jane, never mind the character arcs CW drops.

    TF events matter Mission city effects the narrative, the world broadcast, Egypt, Chicago, Hong Kong. TF's narrative doesn't feel like a waste of my time. Sam's journey is consistent and evolves from each movie, Simmons is effected by each movie, Optimus and Megatron have clear journeys that have taken their characters all around the spectrum. The story between the Autobots and humanity has been well done, we built to the Autobots being exiled, to them being hunted and being at war with humanity.

    With IW what do I have to look forward to they're gathering the Infinity stones and the avengers and Guardians are going to take on Thanos, so what why do I care, what does this battle mean to Tony, Steve, Banner, Natasha?
     
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    No, and it's sad because as transformer fan you want to believe the hype. But the truth is just like others have pointed out, there nothing in the marketing or clips to show that this movie is gonna be any different from the previous 4. I want to stress if enjoyed the previous movies then all the power to you, but after 4 movies i just can't get hyped when I'm just seeing the same stuff over and over again. You know what you're getting. Same old nothing new.

    Now Travis Knight's bumblebee movie might get me excited again just to see what he brings to the table.
    For this year, I'm personally hyped for War for the Planet of the Apes. Previous 2 movies were good and this one just looks so awesome.
     
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    Not a Marvel guy at all so yes. I did end up watching Avengers about two years ago and I was like "I remember seeing this when it was Transformers: Dark of the Moon"
     
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    Nope
     
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    I look forward to the TLK more than any Marvel or Star Wars or DC or Jurassic Park movie slated for release. My two most anticipated movies for 2017 are TLK and Logan (which already came out; fantastic movie by the way).

    I actually really like the Transformers movies. They are heavily inspired by the source material but also take some creative risks. Their narrative parallels that of the original cartoon really well. The visual and sound effects and scores are fantastic. The voice acting has gotten really good. Michael Bay is really good with tone I think. They always have a sense of fun and humor to them, even when the situations in the movies are dire. The action is clearer and shot better than it once was. These movies aren't perfect. They are aiming to be ridiculous, big budget blockbusters, and they succeed at that, but I also think most of them are much better in terms of narrative, character, and theme than they are are given credit for by critics and disgruntled fans. Especially with characters and stories like Sentinel Prime's betrayal and fall, Megatron's decline in power and his resilience and comeback, Optimus losing faith in humanity, Lockdown hunting the remaining Autobots on Earth for the Creators, and Megatron manipulating the humans toward his own end.

    I actually think that of all the big franchises Transformers has the most interesting fictional universe at the moment, so I definitely look forward to it.
     
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    The marketing for TLK isn't really giving me too much of that feel to be honest. The trailers all have this serious tone to them.

    The Fast and Furious movies on the other hand.
     
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    How in the world is TLK not being marketed as a ridiculous, big budget blockbuster? We have what appears to be a part of Cybertron coming into Cybertron. We have goofy things like the WW I tank Autobot. Grimlock spits up a car like a giant puppy. Transformers fighting Nazis and battling in medieval times. Optimus beheads several Infernocons at once...completely over-the-top.

    DOTM and AOE and likely TLK are darker in tone than the first two films I'll admit, but they're still filled with plenty of humor and over-the-top stuff. They aren't these joyless, "grimdark" movies many fans make them out to be.
     
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    Just listen to the music from the trailers and stuff... It feels really dramatic and serious.
     
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    Yeah, but so did some of the music from the other movies, and lots of movies really.

    Also, why can't movies be somewhere in between super serious, "grimdark" war movies and comedies? I think the Transformers films actually a strike a nice balance in between. They have plenty of undoubtedly serious moments, like the destruction of an aircraft carrier and its personnel, or Laserbeak's assassinations, or Sentinel's betrayal, or the conquest of Chicago, or Ratchet's death, or Prime's capture. However, they also have things like Dispensor, Blenderbots, Wheelie doing his thing to Mikaela's leg, or the plenty of one liners in all four films, or the Stupid Drones, or Mini-Dinobots.

    Transformers has always had ominous and grim and violent things happening alongside the cheese and ridiculousness and humor. Seems like another day in Transformers to me. Just another thing the movies and source material have in common in addition to the massive heap of ideas they already share.
     
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    Gee, maybe the imbalance is because all the serious shit happens exponentially longer when you take any one of those things and compare them to any one of the other "amusing" things.

    Momentary gags like Dispensor or Wheelie leg humping, or one liners, do not balance out horrifying bullshit like people getting fucking vaporized down to their bones or truly disturbing shit like Laserbeak manipulating the girl to ultimately kill her father in front of her. There isn't a balance, it's overall grim and depressing settings that try to lighten it up but you are treating this like it's 50/50.

    Simply having comedic elements does not balance out gory death scenes of war and slaughter of innocents portrayed in any serious manner. Take a look at the latest Fast and Furious film - everybody involved with its production acknowledges that it's fucking stupid in every way but that's the fun, it's street racing essentially gone completely nuts and the crew belittling each other and whining about inconsequential things during big set pieces is part of the charm.

    There is no similar sense of that in the Transformer films. Every epic action set piece is played completely seriously, the tension too high to really let there be any room for fun in comparison to any of the most infamous Fast and Furious sequences which thrive on just how silly the situations get. And the stakes if the good guys lose is never redlining like where the Transformers films seem glued perpetually - every wrong move in a TF film simply has the same result: Earth is fucked.

    Is that really all that exciting after a decade with little variation to the same objective? Is there anything that you would even consider a bad idea for them to do in a film short of the 'unthinkable' hard reboot?
     
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