Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by JTKranix, Aug 13, 2010.
I'd think that's even better.
Maybe it's ultra, ultra, rare.
production error is not a variant. to each their own i guess.
but anyone who thinks this would be valuable and a rare piece to own is ridiculous.
It's WILFORD BRIMLEY AUTOBOT SYMBOL RODIMUS!
or DR. ROBOTNIK AUTOBOT SYMBOL RODIMUS.
Still news. Anyone can get one of these... Maybe this can help people keep an watchful eye, or maybe pathetic scalpers won't get much for these, because people might be afraid of getting an upside-down autobot symbol.
How do you know for sure, Hasbro didn't mean to do this?
I discovered the variant for HA Jazz. Was that a production error too, giving him frosted and clear headlamp variants?
Toy companies do, do this, for the sake of those seeking variants.
What sucks about this though, is no one will know if they're getting this version or not. I'll have to compare when I get a second set I plan on keeping sealed, and see if there is a way to tell, so people can avoid getting this variant, should they not want it.
Cool, wonder why he didn't post a news story about it?
He is wrong about one thing... The engine isn't upside down.
It is in the correct position.
What? No, they don't make production runs with errors "for the sake of those seeking variants". They fucked up, plain and simple.
You're sorely mistaken if you think that's going to be worth anything extra to anyone. If anything, it's flawed and worth LESS. You should take it back and get an exchange, or better yet just open his chest up and flip it around.
I don't care how much it's going to be worth, but if something like this is an error, than all variants are errors.
My Jazz, again, has fogged lamps, while the second sealed one I have, is clear lamped. I guess that was an error.
Like I said, this isn't a case of the engine/symbol tab being flipped. The engine is in the correct position, but the symbol is upside down.
Error or not, it's still something people should watch out for.
Yeah, it's definitely not a variant as it is just messed up. I can see if the symbol was a different color or something like that. But this is just an error.
Okay, so then tell me, since people here work at Hasbro, what constitutes a variant from an error?
How does QC pass a toy with a flaw like this? Was the toy on the conveyer, getting its Autobot symbol, and the toy happened to be backward?
I mean seriously, some here seem to be the experts, so how do they know this is an error and not what they consider to be a variant?
In anycase, this is still news that people should know about, and I'm going to find out how people can avoid this in the future, once they get more at TRU.
I think that like with a lot of things in the collecting community it's going to be a matter of opinion. What makes something more or less valuable to someone may make it worthless to someone else.
The fact that there is a variant to a already hard to find toy is just going to add another fun variable in obtaing this toy for collectors, now they have to find "the right one" for them.
I can see some trading happening already.
It's not a damned variant. It's a factory error. It's screwed up, it's not a running change or a good thing. It's a batch of flawed product that was never supposed to be that way - hence, an ERROR. How is a messed up upside-down chest panel "the right one" for anybody?
Remember Arcee and her latter matte finish? THAT was a variant.
It wasn't front paged presumably because it wasn't news worthy.
I'm pretty sure this was non intentional
Exactly on the last part.
People are going to wonder which they have, but how will they know?
Here's something I noticed.
I got Ironhide along with Rodimus (thanks again Arcee's Boy for the hookup), and I noticed something on Rodimus' package, that's not on Ironhides. Maybe someone can tell me if their Rodimus package has this.
On my package, up top on the bubble plastic, there is a small hole. Almost as if to get the toy some air. Maybe this version has that on the bubble?
Just a thought, but I'm going to find out how to tell the difference without opening the toys. IT IS NOW MY LIFE GOAL!
Exactly. If he had a silver Autobot symbol like the rest of the Hasbro Animated releases, that would be a news-worthy variant. I don't recall the fact that ROTF Deluxe Mudflap's feet need to be swapped in order to be screen accurate being front-paged. Of course, had he appeared in other episodes and had his insignia flipped upside down for some reason, that would make it a legitimate variation. However, that didn't happen, so common sense would define this as a factory error.
Still, it's unfortunate this happened to you. I hope you can easily fix it.
unless it was a decepticon symbol!! hehe.
So is it a double variant because the symbol is not only upside down but very crooked? Ebay that sucker for $200. Surely Hasbro wanted to produce such an extremely rare figure for the sake of the collectors. Maybe this is a lucky draw figure?
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