Anyone else think that the Empire in SW is not evil?

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  1. Smasher

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    I have never gotten that idea.
    Trying to follow that logic, I do feel that the Republic was good.
    And watching the prequels and the Clone Wars the point is driven home that the Republic became the Empire –but once they became the Empire they stopped being good.

    I knew it!
    :lolol 
     
  2. cagliostro

    cagliostro Victi Vincimus

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    Not one of them?! Both father and son became the Mand'alor. Can't get much more Madalorian than that, and what's wrong with the beskar'gam?
     
  3. Gordon_4

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    Welcome to the scales and shades of grey that exist in life, often used in movies through mirroring them in fantastic and strange ways.

    The Empire is exactly that: an Empire. And how do you rule an Empire, realistically? Through force of arms and cult of personality and thats what Palpatine has done. Storm Trooper #78348936 may actually do good things be keeping peace and law and order, hunting down criminals etc but he is still a cog in a massive machine of oppression, fear and genocide. The aforementioned Tarkin Doctrine being a textbook example of this idea in practice.

    Also bear in mind that Rebellions of any kind are bloody, cruel affairs fought with every dirty trick you can think of: a knife in the back, a grenade under a dead man's body. Victors write the books; massacres become campaigns, assassinations become covert operations and so on and so forth.

    Also, Luke is not a criminal by an definition of a fair and balanced legal systems.

    Owen and Beru were murdered for refusing to tell a force of oppressive thugs where Luke was; and last I checked it wasn't unusual to get uppity when arseholes come in to your home waving guns and trying to tell you whats up.
     
  4. KnightHawkke

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    Gazoontite!

    Your looking beyond the scope of what I meant and wtf is a beskar'gam anyway, is that something someone needs a pill or cream for?:lol 
    Anyway, I was just basically pointing out I think Boba/Jango Fett suck, they both died the way the shallow, empty characters deserved, like punks!
    (See Darth Maul) characters only wrote in to attract the "oh look a new shiny" crowd.

    and BTW they are not father and son, they are Dr. Evil and Mini-me.







    Oh wait, is that a Sarlacc I hear burping!:lol 

    whooooot 1000th post on a Boba Fett slam!!:dj :rock :music :lolol 
     
  5. rattrap007

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    Luke was a criminal for being in possession of stolen property.

    You receive stolen property you are breaking the law. Hence he was kind of a criminal..
     
  6. Red Alert

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    If you follow the books Boba survived the Sarlacc.
     
  7. Optimus1986

    Optimus1986 TMNT & Hulk Fanatic

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    Boba Fett didn't die at all. He blew his way out of the Sarlaac with explosives he had on him.
     
  8. KnightHawkke

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    Really dude, your not done yet? go see a therapist or something.

    Movie scene or it didn't happen!

    Haha tonight I must go celebrate, 1000th post came busting down on B[​IMG]ba Fett.. I knew it, it was truly meant to be my fandom home here!!
     
  9. ArmadaJetfire

    ArmadaJetfire Yamato is go! ;D

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    I'm sure George is working on that scene for the deluxe special edition blu ray release.
     
  10. Smasher

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    I'm pretty sure you're joking -but it's not coming across 100%.

    I don't agree with his point but I can see where he's coming from.
    However, what if our government went looking for me because I had stolen property and my family didn't tell them (or didn't even know) where I was.

    If our police then burned my family to a crisp it's not a big jump to call the government 'evil'.
     
  11. KnightHawkke

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    This is my serious face...

    that's just the thing, it is evil, there is no maybe, no kinda, no could be.

    I maybe the last person left on the face of the earth who doesn't subscribe to the tired old justification of "shades of grey" when it comes to people in power who commit or don't at least try to stop atrocities from happening, I find even less humor in people who joke about it.

    Right is right, wrong is wrong, Period.

    You know upon further thought, just frying the family was also poor tactics, holding them for questioning and eventual leverage would have done the evilpire a lot more good, just think then Luke might not have been so fast to go blow up the Deathstar..
     
  12. rattrap007

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    I subscribe to Troops being real.

    If you never seen it, it is Stormtroopers version of Cops.

    In it Aunt Beru attacks the troopers with a thermal detonator and blows herself and owen up. Plausible..
     
  13. yodafett

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    Possible, not plausible. Besides being totally out of character for EVERY canon depiction of her, thermal detonators aren't exactly cheap, you know... Most poor moisture farmers on a back-water like Tatooine wouldn't have one sitting around.

    EDIT: But yes, TROOPS is absolutely worth watching. Speakign of which, I need to look into how the sequel is coming. IMPS has been "in progress" for several years now...
     
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    Lets see..

    Leia- Leader of a terrorist organization determined to destroy the government

    Han- felon and he killed a defenseless Greedo in cold blood

    Chewy- Guilt by association and has been known to rip arms out of sockets.

    Ben Kenobi- terrorist and wizard who obstructs justice

    Luke- blatantly harbored criminals and obstructed justice on multiple occasion(has been known to participate in terrorist activities and dabble in wizardry)

    Lando- Stole his position of power and is a known thief and liar

    Owen and Beru- a mistake that Lord Vader was unaware of.
     
  15. General Magnus

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    Combat personnel. Or do you whine every time armed forces kills enemies?

    Also I love how people are completly ignoring the premise the Empire was built upon a false war.
     
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  16. Smasher

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    Lies!
    The Empire was built for a safe and secure society.
     
  17. 100% Mackem

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    Anyone think the Jedi are Cold Blooded Baby Snatchers who then use mind games on the Children as they grow up to be Religous nutters with lazer Swords?
     
  18. netkid

    netkid Where's my Goddamn shoe!

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    But...but..the poor innocent janitors, and the cooks, and the other prisoners in the cell blocks, and the people who run the Death Star gift ship, and all the guests aboard.:lolol 
     
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