Anyone else miss Grimlock?

Discussion in 'Transformers Comics Discussion' started by agp, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. agp

    agp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    Posts:
    1,939
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +1,244
    I would really love to know when IDW is going bring back Grimlock. Has Grimlock really been used outside of Maximum Dinobots, Scavengers stories, and Monstrosity? Maybe I'm alone, but I'd love to have the big guy back and active.
     
  2. dj_convoy II

    dj_convoy II Remix!

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2006
    Posts:
    3,089
    News Credits:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +3,636
    He's with the Scavengers at the moment. He'll turn up in Lost Light sooner or later, methinks.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. ZeroiaSD

    ZeroiaSD Autobot

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2014
    Posts:
    3,484
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +1,354
    There's supposed to be a Scavengers story tied in with Revolutions, isn't there?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,335
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    462
    Likes:
    +3,055
    Ebay:
    I am interested in seeing how Slag/Slug and the other Dinobots re-act to Grimlock in his current state.

    also still waiting for the inevitable Scavangers meet the Lost Light and/or Rodimus and co.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. iamtfc

    iamtfc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2015
    Posts:
    251
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Likes:
    +570
    Yes, it comes out this month, too.

    I love the Scavengers (rhymes with "avengers"!). I hope we see more of them in season 3.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. RNSrobot

    RNSrobot Keeper of the Waspinator Swarm. Blam.

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Posts:
    2,203
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +2,733
    I DO.

    Therein lies the rub.

    I was also bored of Grimlock. IDW Grimlock was interesting, mind, but he's absolutely one of the most over-exposed Autobots, particularly due to Furman's love for the character. Simon brought terrific depth and fleshed Grimlock out wonderfully, but it was beginning to feel like the same story over and over (kind of like Prime...).

    So NOW I miss him, because he hasn't been part of the story in a major way in a long, long time. And there's still a mystery out there as to exactly how he got off Garrus-9, who found him, what they might have been doing. On top of that, the other Dinobots have had a chance to grow a little, apart from their leader, so like AutoVolt said, it'd be very interesting to see how the Dinobots react to Grimmy's current state.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Murasame

    Murasame 村雨

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    25,799
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    The Lost Light
    Likes:
    +14,410
    Yeah, Grimlock and Springer are really underused. Would rather see stories about them than stories about humans fighting against Transformers. AGAIN. The ONE story I have no interest in at all gets repeated OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I want to see stories about Transformers and their mythos. Like how Furman did it back then.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. agp

    agp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2012
    Posts:
    1,939
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +1,244
    They've introduced the wider galaxy, they should be definately using that over the damn earth story again. I would love to see something along the lines of Grimlock and the Dinobots getting around the galaxy as an A Team style of mercenaries. Maybe they join up with Impactor and help him. Flashback stories to the war would be cool too. IDW could do annual mini series instead of trying to shoe horn things into the existing titles or making a new ongoing.

    Grimlock is too good of a character to be sitting brain damaged and appearing for a couple panels every year or two.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. Murasame

    Murasame 村雨

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    25,799
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    The Lost Light
    Likes:
    +14,410
    It felt like they first opened up everything with all the world building, especially Furman and Roberts and then when all these events began it turned smaller again. As if we went from full blown IDW Transformers to IDW Transformers Light.
     
  10. RNSrobot

    RNSrobot Keeper of the Waspinator Swarm. Blam.

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    Posts:
    2,203
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +2,733
    I'm with those who are done with earth/TF.

    Also, MOAR SPRINGER
     
  11. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,335
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    462
    Likes:
    +3,055
    Ebay:
    Totally.

    That is one thing I like about MTMTE, at least it's not the same Earth stories again and again.

    Considering that Springer is still active and on Earth, I do wonder how long until he actually shows up in another comic that isn't another Wreckers series?

    It feels weird all this shit is going on Earth and not once do we cut to Springer or Verity.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. Murasame

    Murasame 村雨

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    25,799
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    The Lost Light
    Likes:
    +14,410
    This
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Optimax Prime

    Optimax Prime The 14th Prime

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2016
    Posts:
    2,984
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Location:
    Fort Optimax (which is more than meets the eye)
    Likes:
    +1,382
    sweet :dj :dj :dj :drool: :drool: :drool: 
     
  14. hardlurk

    hardlurk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2014
    Posts:
    832
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +1,123
    When Grimlock was first introduced the Scavengers encountered him as an infamously brutal war criminal who had fought on the wrong side and who had been turned into some kind of mad science experiment. He was fundamentally dangerous and his desire was unknowable. He presented a genuine existential threat. And they joined with him anyway. That was one of the best things in MTMTE. That's what I miss.

    Compare this to the counter scenario which played out with Overlord on the Lost Light. In the Autobot version of such an encounter there was no possible outcome but rape and murder. Faith was never on the table.

    Or compare it to the Dying of the Light. Megatron was only "redeemed" because Team Rodimus had come to understand him and were certain that he was their friend. There was no faith, only positive knowledge which neutered the potential threat. There was a semblance of vulnerability, but only a semblance.

    Roberts only allows himself to write ethical characters when he is writing them as villains. Solidarity with the alien is beyond the Autobot horizon of possibility.
     
  15. Nocturne

    Nocturne Professional Ginger

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Posts:
    1,540
    News Credits:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +975
    (edit: Sorry! Added some bits because I forgot them)

    Didn't the Scavengers(after using him as bait for the DJD) take along a severely brain damaged Grimlock to use him as a bargaining chip once they returned to Cybertron? The Scavengers are the same guys who set an innocent(non-famous) autobot on fire and then shot him when he started pleading for his life

    The next time we see the Scavengers the majority decide to sell him. True, they had a change of heart later but when given the initial choice they were still ready and willing to sell someone without their consent or input. I would argue that the only reason they changed they changed their minds was because Misfire spent time getting to know Grimlock(kinda like the LL getting to know Megatron)

    Say what you want about Roberts and ethical characters but don't pretend that the Scavengers reasons were purely noble and selfless.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    • Like Like x 2
  16. Starscream Gaga

    Starscream Gaga Protoformed This Way

    Joined:
    May 19, 2011
    Posts:
    9,615
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +5,860
    It's a hard "no" from me when it comes to the pre-Scavengers Grimlock. IDW Grimlock was pretty damn boring, to be honest, as he usually is when written by Furman.
     
  17. hardlurk

    hardlurk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2014
    Posts:
    832
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +1,123
    The first two-parter contrasts Tarn's perverted faith with the Scavenger's more authentic stance. Fulcrum gives a speech about what it means to be a Decepticon and then fully commits himself to suicide bombing. Later on they drink the blood of a fallen comrade and pick through his corpse for spare parts.

    They treat Grimlock no differently than they treat themselves (at least, when they are at their best) -- as an instrument for the cause. They didn't simply use him as bait, they brought him into the struggle, and the struggle is to the death (and beyond).

    They shot that Autobot because, despite what some people insist, the war isn't over.

    The next time we get a Scavengers two-parter is ~40 issues later, and I haven't found nearly as much to like that far into the series.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
    • Like Like x 2
  18. WilyMech

    WilyMech Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2013
    Posts:
    4,412
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +421
    Most likely crew meets with the Scavengers it is going be like this.

    Megatron: "Worst Decepticons ever."

    Rodimus: "They are the most murderous, vile, and no moral compass what so ever."

    Megatron: "No they are the worst Decepticons ever means they have no redeeming value as a warrior. The DJD are the worst Decepticons ever because they are murderous thugs and take pleasure in killing. This team is exact opposite."

    Misfire: "Hey that is before or after they found out about Grimsy."
     
  19. Coffee

    Coffee (╭☞ꗞᨓꗞ)╭☞

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Posts:
    6,810
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Ontario
    Likes:
    +4,287
    He's with the Scavengers in MTMTE. So he's a minor character for a change, which is something I really don't have against.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2016
  20. WilyMech

    WilyMech Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2013
    Posts:
    4,412
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +421
    There is more to Grimlock than simple Brain damage. The instances we saw Grimlock there are times we intellect that is trapped. During the incident with Tyrest we see Grimlock playing Jenga. Even with the Scavengers last two issues he said thanks to having his own room.