Animated O.P. deals with Megs the right way

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  1. Prime's Pappa

    Prime's Pappa Animated Forever

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    After my TFA marathon I realized just how impressive Optimus was. How he dealt with Sentinel, how he took the fall for Elita-1 and even more impressive was how he spared Megs at the end. Unlike Murderous Prime from the movies animated OP spared Megs even after learning of the death of Prowl and the beating he and his team took, he still did the right thing and spared Megs and took him into custody instead of taking him offline....This is the Optimus I grew up with. Way to go O.P.!!!!
     
  2. RandomGuy

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    Animated Optimus also had a thriving Cybertron on which Megatron could be imprisoned, although had season 4 been made Megs would have broken out anyway.

    Movie Prime had nowhere secure enough to imprison Megatron. It was made clear that Megatron could not be reformed and would simply continue as he had before.

    Animated Prime had the option of sparing Megs. Movie Prime did not.
     
  3. WreckerZero

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    Movie prime had the ability to incapacitate Megatron, prisons can also be built, didn't they have weaponary that could disable a cybertronian? Could have shot off meg's arms and legs but no he went straight for the kill.

    Also in that same scene Optimus shot Sentinal, who was begging for his life, in the head. He didn't have to shoot him in that way, it was just unnecessarily brutal.
     
  4. Rexidus

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    No one is beyond redemption. Movie Optimus is just a homicidal, blood thirsty, lunatic.

    Animated Optimus Prime is a hero. He doesn't do what's easy; he does what's right.
     
  5. Yggdrasil

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    Animated Optimus is the best Optimus.

    (leaving the thread before it turns into another movie-Optimus "it's totally ok to rape, mutilate, torture and massacre people in war because there's no rules" shitstorm)
     
  6. jestermon

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    Animated Optimus would have killed Megatron too if he had been fighting him for millions of years but he hadn't he was a wash out cadet that was put on repair duty.

    He wanted to be a good little soldier, I loved him so I am not making fun of the character but that was his background.

    The Prime we grew up with had finally had it with Megatron and killed him so I am not understanding why you are saying he is just like Animated Optimus.

    G1 Prime, Movie Prime, Prime Prime had been fighting the guy for millions of years personally, we have went to war over minor differences on Earth and took up a kill them all attitude in just a few years.

    If you multiply that by millions of years and you haven't been able to reach some kind of compromise for peace you'd realize it's the only way someone will stop doing the things they are doing.

    I don't understand why people are upset with movie prime world dead, most of your people (Autobots) dead, they even killed him.

    If you don't understand how that would sway a rosy outlook on your situation it's beyond me.
     
  7. Hot Shot.

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    Aww. You're going to miss the part where I try to preach basic morality to edgy teenagers who only watch Bayformers to see Optimus goring as many snarling, dumb monsters as he can.
     
  8. Chopperface

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    Animated Optimus is one of the best because he really does earn his title of "hero" by the end. He made damn sure Megatron would finally bother to remember his name. Said scenes in Endgame, Part II were some of the most powerful Transformers moments, period.

    Movie Optimus is not a bloodthirsty maniac. He was unwilling to allow Megatron and the other Decepticons to escape and fight, when they'd proven millions of times over that they would never reform or surrender peacefully, and not even death would stop Megatron, let alone imprisonment. He is absolutely brutal in combat, yes. And he had an admittedly bizarre line in ROTF that Peter Cullen himself found weird ("It was... Definitely aggressive. I mean, have you ever had your face pulled off?!?"). For the cartoonish world Bay Optimus lives in, he does the right thing. I certainly wouldn't give Megatron another chance after he gleefully ordered the massacre of millions in Chicago, let alone "generations" of Cybertronians.

    Yeah, I'm just gonna copy paste that for everytime that ridiculous argument rears it's ugly head for the billionth time.
     
  9. Repainted

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    Of course Movie Prime is wrong for killing. He could have just taken all his enemies to robot jail where they would never get out and everyone else would live happily ever after
     
  10. SPLIT LIP

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    Animated also had the Autobots and Cybertron still a full and functioning society, and is generally more suyited for younger audiences. Optimus himself is younger and more, well, optimistic.

    Optimus killing Megatron fits more in the movies where everything's a lot more visceral, there is no "system" in place anymore. It's really kill or be killed, that's what they're going for. Megatron's not someone who can be detained, or should be, as he's much more animalistic verses TFA Megaton who's clearly more intelligent and restrained. It's why all Decepticons are snarling monsters. It's a much more simple view of things.

    Animated was far more intelligent and developed as a show, so of course they handled things better. Typically a better told story tells better stories.

    The fuck are you on about?

    Sometimes what you say defies logic. "Optimsu Prime, total rapist."
     
  11. Meta777

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    "What are you waiting for, Autobot? Finish me."

    -A Megatron at the end of his tether, defeated and humiliated and unwilling to be subjected to an Autobot court, demands death. Animated Optimus denies him this, knowing that Megatron's death only spares him justice and thus refuses to grant him such a privilege.

    "Who would you be without me, Prime?"

    -A Megatron desperate to take whatever options he has left and escape with his life, hoping to exploit his mortal rival's ideals in order to salvage his failure. Movie Optimus denies him this, knowing that Megatron's continued existence only offers him further opportunities to attempt Earth's destruction/subjugation.

    Different Primes react to different Megatrons in different circumstances.
     
  12. SPLIT LIP

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    Honestly I don't see why Optimus killing Megatron sticks with people more than him executing Sentinel. Megatron was killed in a fair fight. (and extremely quick fight, but a fight nontheless) Sentinel was was actually incapacitated and Optimus ended him.
     
  13. Chopperface

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    Bingo and bingo.
     
  14. LightningBlade3

    LightningBlade3 Destined to be a Prime

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    But isn't death the punishment for treason?
     
  15. grindcore138

    grindcore138 TIME TO DELIVER A PIZZA BALL!

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    Meta and SPLIT LIP hit the nail on the head. They're completely different Optimi under completely different circumstances, it's as simple as that.
     
  16. SouthtownKid

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    You can't compare them. They live in different universes governed by completely different rules.

    Animated Autobots also actually had a functioning society and system set up whereby they could arrest and incarcerate enemies.

    edit: beat by Split Lip
     
  17. Feralstorm

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    Movie Optimus' more cynically pragmatic outlook is better suited to the films' primary function as a robot gore-porn delivery device.
     
  18. LegendAntihero

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    Animated Optimus made the right choice. Another reason I loved the show
     
  19. Mechafire

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    I for one would like to see one of the multiversal singularities swap Ani OP with movie OP, tell him "go nuts" and see what happens.
     
  20. Dachande

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    It's also unfair to judge movie Optimus' actions by human standards. Maybe in this continuity, what he did was completely acceptable. After all, the rest of the team didn't say anything about it.