No, slash is not always x-rated stuff. Slash can be just hugging and kissing. It's an umbrella term, if you like.

 

Just saying, but generally so does everybody else about that paring. Because it's official most of the time.

Except where MTMTE has gone is taken the setting of Transformers and gone off in a new direction in a period where the war supposedly ended. The lines dividing the factions are blurred as you've got extreme gray morality Autobots and Decepticons who aren't die hard afficianados of Megatron's little book of revolution that started the whole mess. There's technically faction infighting - the DJD are/were the Decepticon secret police who went around killing anybody not loyal to Megatron, yet last I heard they kind of had it out for Megsy ever since he went Autobot and are now partnered with Overlord who they'd been trying to kill for the greater portion of 30-some comic issues.

And they never draw attention to this relationship stuff anywhere remotely as much as this thread's point of existence seems to think. Just to underline how pointless it all is, this thread's argument falls flat if instead of Chromedome/Rewind, it was Chromedome/Rosanna.

To imply that it is wrong for the Cybertronian civilization to have anything to do with relationships is to imply that a civilization having anything to do with relationships is wrong by default.

Does he cringe at every single thing involving romance in anything? Because he's screwed if he ever tries Beast Wars.

WHERE DO YOU THINK BLACKARACHNIA CAME FROM?

99% of all internet drama comes from there.

Trust me, giving the wrong people even the slightest ability to influence things can be disastrous.

 

@ILoveDinobot @Ramberk Magnus
lol Wrong. I´m not fifteen. Most likely I´m even older then you. And yes, I´m in the Tf fandom since seven years, but I am already a fan from beginning.

Furthermore, it´s true. I don´t like slash (and I wish a lot more people would admit it). And no, I don´t hate slashers. Why should I hate slashers ? They love cats, and roses, and children and pink kangaroos...  

Once again, I´m sorry about my lack of English. It is not my first language, and I never was really good in it. Thats why I need quite a bit of time for my answers. And probably thats the reason you have misunderstood me.

Oh, and I´m definitely no "he".

 

Sorry for calling you a he, I actually assumed you were a girl since you were searching Tumblr. But, I wrote "he" out of habit. Not sorry for anything else I wrote.
So you are older than 15, ok? Maybe one day you will mature a little and not be insulted by things that have nothing to do with you. Things that can be easily ignored and with a little thought power can be avoided so they don't even disturb you.

 

I am surprised and proud of this community by the lack of anyone making a filthy frank reference of "It's time to stop" and dissapointed in myself for making it, anyways, I am not a fan of relationships in series being influenced by shippers, it seems like well...ass kissing.

 

And here I thought it was called.... being progressive.

 

Yeah I know, though it at times feels like that pairing isn't as well known anymore considering on DA, a few people threw fits about my Transformers VG Peach-One picture that boiled down to "Why didn't you draw her as Arcee!!!! Arcee is the one that loves Optimus and he loves her, not whatever this is!!!! You should had made her Arcee, Optimus loves Arcee!!!!!" I don't mind different ships but when they treat it as fact, it gets pretty annoying.

I actually hadn't read much of IDW due to getting confused with the storyline so I didn't know that. And I agree there's nothing wrong with them having relationships, it's nice to see otherwise I would have despised the mere thought of Optimus and Elita (I do have more TF ships but we would be here a while if I named them all.) But one has to be careful not to over do it like take for example Tailgate's relationship plotlines, from what I read that was focused on the most in her (Yes I consider Tailgate female only because it seems the writers really keep leaning toward the idea, despite still using male pronouns.) arcs and I felt whenever she was there it was taking too much attention away from the main plot. I don't know if this is case anymore since the last I read of her was she discovered she accidentally married Cyclonus... at least I think... I'm still confused about that.

Actually it was Animated that made him hate the concept of romance in Transformers in the first place since that was the very first TF cartoon we watched. He wasn't too happy with the whole "Blackarachnia tricks Optimus and gets away" which led to him cringing when he saw romance in G1. Don't know how he would react to Beast Wars considering he hates the show all because he hates that they transform into animals and refuses to watch it for that fact alone. *sigh*

I knew she came from Beast Wars, I know that's where she first appeared. I had a drama teacher in highschool who told me about the show. I also know about the romance plotline with Blackarachnia and Silverbolt. I just hadn't seen it in action yet.

 

butt-kissing progression, kind of synonyms now a days.

 

@ILoveDinobot
I forgot, there is another thing you were wrong. I actually like relationships in Transformers, no matter if same-sex, het or whatever...as long it´s canon. And canon means for me; It´s the authors own, original idea.

And, oh, I think I´m "mature" enough.

 

Chromedome and Rewind was the author's own, original idea.

 

I would not be surprised at this point if Rewind became Rosanna. Roberts likes Tumblr's attention enough to do it.

Being progressive is generally fine if it's naturally written. Chromedome and Rewind were a great example. Were.

What I don't think is fine is when a writer starts doing it for praise or a conceited sense of social justice, which is how the romantic relationships began to feel in the second arc. I dropped MTMTE at the Necrobot's planet because I realized how bare-bones the storyline had become for taking a backseat to all the relationship drama .

 

And boom goes the dynamite.

Roberts is writing this story to appease a very vocal minority. You can see the shift from the first season to the second. It's just not good anymore.

What does progressive even mean in relation to transformers? It's such a nebulous concept anyway. How is Transformers changing or "progressing" social norms? By showing a relationship between two alien robots? Really? We can't even come to a consensus as to whether or not the transformers are even men. Much less heterosexual/homosexual as we define the concept.

Is windblade really progressive? I'd argue that she isn't. Is the relationship with Rewind and Chromedome really progressive? If so, why? It doesn't really reflect a homosexual relationship. At best it's a bit of a wink to the fans, but it's not acknowledged in-universe and it never will.

Midnighter and Apollo? Yes, they're absolutely gay, and I love them. They're two of my favorite comic characters. John Constantine? Another great Bi/pan sexual character. It gets acknowledged that they're not hetero all the time. That's something that's never going to happen with Transformers. Cause, you know, inorganic aliens.

Oh, and count me as the first in the eventual group of people that would like to see Rewind robotransition into Rosanna. If for no other reason that I want a regular retail release of Rosanna.

 

I'm wondering if being unable to follow MTMTE for a while is not a bad thing at this point. Because the Arcee drama is something we don't need to revisit because of Tumblrites.

 

So the writer of Mtmte is influenced by Tumblr? Another reason for me to avoid it then. I despise that cesspool of a website.

 

I don't know, relationships between the robot characters we know and love help us to relate to them as we are human beings that also have our own relationships.

But to each their own I suppose. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

They're intelligent robots that can think and feel. That was established verbatim on Day One of the franchise. It would be more illogical for them NOT to have relationships. And since gender is not an issue for them, a huge variety of pairings (or more) are culturally possible for them.

I love that they've begun to explore that aspect of Transformers life in canon.

--Moony

 

  Very well said. I completely agree.

 

I had no idea 'slash' was even a thing. I feel so old right now. The last comic arc I read and followed was AHM, and I don't recall any slash action. Doesn't really bother me though as long as it's genuine and not agenda-driven garbage. After all, the heart wants what it wants.

 

Yeah, is it bad that I thought "slash fiction" was a form of horror fiction?

Even at 35 you learn something new that I wouldn't have liked to have learned at any age.

 

What agenda?

So I get if folks say "I don't like Robert's writing style." And then leave it at that. I just find it disingenuous when folks start accusing him of having an agenda or because of tumblr. The reason is because that logic is only applied with certain types of stories. Basically, its a codeword for "I don't want to read this type of story, so I'll justify my bias by saying its a crappy story because it was published for an agenda."

Like, folks in this thread are making assumptions and accusations about Roberts which, I think is pretty unfair and on BS side of things. I still don't understand how tumblr relates to Roberts or how he's a bad author if he interacts with that part of the fandom. I mean... would he be accused of being a bad author if he interacted with more "traditional" parts of the fandom?

If you actually took time to read his material, you would see the type of writer he is. You either like it or not. But this other stuff that's getting thrown at him (labels, assumptions, accusations), like that's unfair. That just seems a BS method of hiding your own bias. That's just my opinion because a lot of folks even admit they don't read his material. Which is just hilarious to say that and then attack him in the same sentence.