Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Sockie, Oct 9, 2015.
This is grimdark:
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The most horrifying and bloody day on IDW verse is just a Tuesday on Warhammer 40k.
Meh. My first response hearing the first reports of this from NYCC was "Oh... one of those plots."
Yeah. I'll pass, thanks.
Hey, y'know what would be cool? Like, if Prime gradually gets more and more draconian in his attempts to do the right thing, and eventually essentially stumbles into running a police state against the will of the very people he's trying to protect.
And then at the end, it turns out he was Bombshell all along.
What a twist!!
And it was Megatron's plan all along.
That's comic books for ya.
Sometimes I wonder why I even read comics anymore.
I'd call the fact that in IDW continuity, every Prime until Optimus was a heartless bastard who believed in either racial superiority or using power to enslave the masses was pretty grimdark. Everything I've read about the way IDW handles this stuff makes it sound like it's
I know what grimdark is. If you had bothered to read the link, it mentions that the definition isn't completely agreed upon. Not all of them require the work to be Warhammer level of darkness. A complete lack of light and levity is the common view online, but it is by no means the only one. By some definitions, A Song of Ice and Fire would fall into the category.
Depends on the definition one is using. One thing that everyone agrees on with the definition is the heroes being morally ambiguous, and often little better than the villains. Just my personal opinion, but I'd say it fits a version of Autobots who, after the war, allow worlds that helped the Deceptions to be razed and force the former Cons to live in ghettos. Just me, though.
I don't know, it could be good. It sounds like it may even parallel to some degree with how Megatron rose to power in the IDW-verse. How neat would it be if it were Megatron that got through to Prime and explained the error of what he's doing?
Sure, you can have morally ambiguous characters. Both Autobots and Decepticons have their line-straddlers and turncoats. Mirage, Thundercracker, Jetfire, Grimlock, Drift, Dinobot, Blackarachnia - but when every character is like that? Then holy shit, we have a universe where evil is good and good is evil and it's called Shattered Glass.
I'm pretty sure Megatron's line is, "Peace through tyranny" and Optimus'es is, "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings". This is totally contrary to his entire core value. It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
Happens in the real world all the time, people questioning when it's ok to sacrifice freedom for security.
We don't know yet what threat the Earth may be facing, and no one should assume that Optimus is not making a tough decision. Or what the people of the Earth not named Spike actually feel about these turn of events. Maybe Optimus will be seen as a savior?
It has a lot of potential, I just hope they don't screw it up.
The interview straight-up says most of Earth is not happy about this.
The plot reminds me of the premise for Superman IV...and that's not a good thing
I'm sure many in charge of the status quo won't like this, but I can see Optimus winning over the will of the people.
The premise for Superman IV was a good one, it's the execution where everything went horribly wrong.
I wouldn't be surprised. I get the feeling that Most of Earth is not happy being The Spot for Cybertronians and colonies go to as major vacation hub.
All Hail Optimus? That doesn't sound right.
That...that's actually a really neat idea.
I tried reading a few of these and I just cant get into them. The characters to me read all wrong.
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