A question regarding Beast Hunters' Predacons/Predaking

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Transformed, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. Transformed

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    How do you think the Predacons/Predaking will be introduced next season? I've been wondering how they'll be introduced since the teaser went up on Youtube a few weeks ago, even more after the season finale.

    With the Autobots few in number, scattered and on the run, introducing these giants seems a bit overkill. Might they be a later addition to the show, perhaps near the middle of the story arc or its end, around the time the Autobots are likely to regroup and strengthen their numbers?

    Are these these new Decepticons Shockwave's first creations or are they a second run on a failed attempt, namely the Dinobots--with Optimus finding Earth in Transformers Prime storyline, it seems unlikely that the Dinobots will share the origin as told in Fall of Cybertron, but that doesn't mean Shockwave won't have created them.

    The shows new subtitle, Beast Hunters, confuses me. Is it simply referring to beasts who are hunters, as Shockwave introduces them or someone/thing hunting beasts?

    The Autobots aren't beast--at least not the ones we know, and these new these new Decepticons clearly are. But with rumors of the Dinobots about, I wonder whether we will see them introduced this coming season, giving reason for "ultimate Autobot hunters" creation.
     
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    With luck, they're be at least three beasts in the show:
    Predaking (confirmed)
    Laserback
    Twinstrike AKA Sinnertwin
     
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    I doupt the TF Prime team will me that giving on new characters.
     
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    Probably, all though with predaking in show and the recent reuse of the jet vehicon model, it could be possible. Save for Smokescreen and Insecticons, there hasn't been a new model for a while (and since Insecticons are like vehicons and scraplets, they earned their value proabbly by now through all the eps they've been in). I can see at least those 3 in show--or some of the others from the Kreo line.

    Back on topic--since we know that the Predacons are to Cybertronians as the Dinosaurs were to us, I believe Shockwave conducted experiments on the remains of Cybertron's ancient beasts. Knowing their behaviors and whatnot, he recreated the Predacons who will have the natural skill of hunting--in this case, the autobots, who have scattered to different corners of the country (we see the united states on the map when ratchet is groundbridging them but I hope some went to other countries).

    Predaking and a few minions will probably hunt down the Autobots or try to every so often--but I can definitely see Predaking developing his own consciousness(if he isn't in control of himself already)... and I think at this point that it is safe to say that 'Beast Hunters' refers to Hunters who just so happen to be Beasts...i.e. the Predacons.
     
  5. Transformed

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    Quite possible, but I wouldn't be too surprised if their forms are from a different world--the reaction from Megatron's bunch makes me think these things were not of Cybertron.

    The Transformers Prime episode, Out of the Past, explained to us what Starscream and Shockwave were doing after Cybertron fell and prior to the Decepticons going to Earth: Shockwave was reverse engineering the Space Bridge and Starscream was collecting Energon to power the thing. We know the Space Bridge worked, as that's how Cliffjumper and Arcee made their way to Team Prime, better still, Shockwave didn't perish in the explosion that shut the Space Bridge down in Arcee and Cliffjumper's escape.

    With the Space Bridge complete and working, Shockwave must have kept busy doing other things.

    Why wouldn't he already have one? The Insecticons and Vehicons are all sentient. Why would the Predacons be any different?

    Beast Hunters may last only 16 episodes this season, but this move may lead to a bunch of new characters. Money not put towards animation, writing, actors, etc., could have been placed elsewhere--new characters *crosses fingers*
     
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    Wait, so the Predacons are supposed to be ancient Cybertronian beasts? If that's the case, thats pretty sweet
     
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    We have no idea what they're supposed to be--yet.

    WFC suggests that Insect-like creatures inhabited the world before and along side Cybertronians. We have yet to see what Transformers Prime will say about the planet.
     
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    As far as I remember from the live stream from NYCC, the Hasbro guy said that the predacons were ancient/prehistoric beasts that perished on Cybertron before the cybertronians we know now existed--as mentioned prior, like Dinosaurs are to us. So as we are lead to believe they are cybertronian.

    Now what Shockwave did to recreate them/revive them could have other worldly influence, so I'm all for it. At one point, part of me wondered if the space bridged could also do something to time and when it backfired of whatever in 'Out of the Past', Shockwave was sent elsewhere--i.e. the past to view such creatures. It sounds stupid to me now, but thought I'd throw it out there.

    When 'Rage of the Dinobots' comes out, I'm sure we'll get our answer, but assuming some things carry over from FoC, once Shockwave viewed the prehistoric forms of dinosaurs on earth, he could have wondered what lied in the past on his very own planet..
     
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    I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the update:thumb 

    I thought it was odd that Cybertron was a metallic world before Primus merged with it--I had written off the lack of visual detail for Unicrons fall as a cost cutting measure, as it was described in interviews (perhaps more than stated as we got so few paintings to explain the past). Metallic inhabitants prior to Primus arrival would be interesting, considering comics and Beast Wars pretty much made Cycertron a barren rock.

    I wonder if this might be how the Quintessons are introduced. Rather than having them as visitors that came and subjugated Cybertron, might they be beings who returned home only to find it taken over by aliens? What if Primus' Cyberformation of the planet killed inhabitants he didn't know existed? ...perhaps too much of a stretch.

    Who was it that said time travel was off the table? Hasbro?

    I thought HMS really had to make the case why and how the Dinobots came to be and that time travel couldn't be part of it.

    I suppose. Do the comics coincide with the show now or are they like the Marvel Comic stories which were quite different from the cartoon.

    If Cybertron can have its own rhinoserous beetles, why can't they or elsewhere have Dinosaurs to draw from? Matt Tieger already made people believe in Space T-Rexs, so why not keep it going?
     
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    No probs.

    Before Primus merged with the planet could explain why the Predacons were beast-like instead of vehicular robots as we've come to know...I think Primus' combination with the planet could explain the cataclysmic event that killed the preds off or sealed 'em away...or whatever happened to 'em lol. Or aybe they died out during the time of Unicron being defeated, so Primus becoming the planet didn't kill 'em, but whatever happened before? I dunno, but it sure will be interesting as long as they try to explain a bit at least.

    Quick question, Beast Wars the series? They showed Cybertron once there right, when cheetor was hallucinating in that episode where he almost died? The cities were empty but definitely metallic--unless I mistook barren 'rock' to literally mean rock xD then mybad.

    It was me saying time travel is off the table--Hasbro never said lol, I was just rolling with some ideas. It's still possible, it's just I wonder how likely--

    I didn't know the reasons behind HMS' Dinobot origins, just thought they did it to coincid with a g1ish timeline (since it was like millions of years before the autobots and cons would wake up after hitting the earth). The comic hasn't come out yet, but it's said to be a tying point into season 3--so in some way it will be connected to the series. Whether or not it is direct relation or just for inspiration, I'm not sure, but since Shockwave is said to appear in it, it'll probably be show canon and something'll happen to the dinobots to keep 'em out of the show but still part of the universe.

    lmao that's true on the beetles/space t-rexes. I just hope whatever season 3 brings isn't too...wonky. I see a lot of room for things to get weird lol, but with only 16 (?) episodes next season, I expect stuff to stay nice and solid. Just really want a Shockwave figure to be made--so more screentime for him, the better!
     
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    i almost looked like starscream made them in some pod. judging from the spoiler i saw.
     
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    I have the feeling the Predacons, rather concepts, won't have an interesting backstory. In fact, I don't see their story being any better than our dinosaurs.