40 Minutes of TLK were cut, including the Megatron and Prime backstory

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  1. Lazlow007

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    I did a list what scenes wasn't made into the final version.

    1.: Michigan: Autobots vs Decepticons.
    2.: Optimus vs Bee: Chokeslam.
    3.:London Autobot Chase, building falls down.
    4.: "Churchill is a hero in this fim" scene ?
    5.: Submarine transformation.
    6.: London bridge scene: "That thing is scary."
    7.: Cogman Headmaster ability, steals Nitro's body.
    8.: The Beginning of the WW2 Scene, Hot Rod and Bee in front of the gate.
     
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  2. Chris James

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    We may get actually deleted scenes this time around. It does feel like a lot of the movie got edited down(the opposite of AOE). It explains why the editing in the middle of the film was so bad.
     
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    Who says movies have to be a certain length? There is no benchmark, or rule book that says "to qualify as good, you have to be this amount of time". That's complete BS. Some of the best movies of all time were EXTREMELY long.

    GWTW: 3h 58m
    Godfather: 2h 58m
    Pulp Fiction: 2h 58m
    LotR: tFotR: 2h 58m theatrical, 3h 48m Extended
    LotR 2: 2h 59m theatrical, 3h 55m extended
    LotR 3: 3h 20m theatrical, 4h 11m extended
    Braveheart: 3h 2m

    And the list goes on.

    What's up with this BS that if you need a lot of time to make a movie, than there's a problem?
    Do people use this type of horrid reasoning for art? Cars (if you need a lot of money to manufacture a good car then there's a problem)? Or shows? Or with pretty much ANYTHING ELSE?
     
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  4. Ephland

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    No one who complained that AOE was too long was wrong. There's also no excuse for a "big chunk" of this film to be missing.
     
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    fair enough but one could argue aoe would have been worse had they trimmed off 30+ minutes...i mean, when you have so many characters in a film (on average there are about 30+ characters including humans in these films) it would be beneficial to make them at least 2hrs 40min. otherwise cut some characters out
     
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    The problem is that the director shoots a bunch of shit and then stitches it all together. We've heard before that he thinks up new scenes during filming and adds those. Michael Bay doesn't film a story, he films a bunch of things that look cool or are funny to him and then figures out how to make it all go together later.

    If he stuck to the plan that's laid out before filming starts, he wouldn't have to edit important shit out. I'm fully convinced that a lot of important scenes get scrapped because they contradict some bullshit Michael Bay wanted to add halfway through production.
     
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  7. Prime17

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    The Bay movies do not need to be as long as those movies when so much BS in the five films that can easily be cut and replaced with more important scenes.

    Seriously, that plot for each movie is basically this:
    TF1: Find the Allspark
    ROTF: Find the Matrix
    DOTM: Find the Pillars
    AOE: Find the Seed
    TLK: Find the Staff.

    All those plots can be told within 2 hours. It's not even the length that so much the problem, it's the editing.
     
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    i do think bay also gets stuck in some ridiculously over long scenes like the whole contrived plot piece of getting everyone to egypt in 2 which seemed like it took forever....the driller worm scene in 3 which was about 10 minutes too long, the magnet bomb scene in 4 which was unnecessary & the damn london exposition/sub chase scene in 5
     
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  9. TFwheeljack223

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    If a Director's Cut Extending the movie into 3 Hours is what it takes to get those extra scenes and make things even a tad more coherent then by god GIVE IT TO US!
     
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  10. G1DeadEnd

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    Makes me so mad!!!
    I have this DVD, but I also used to have this Blu-ray, which got stolen in a burglary of my home in 2015 (along with all Blu-ray films, which included TF-1 through 4 special, and or 3D editions).
    Now all that's available for sale anymore, is a DVD, not this ROTF IMAX edition on Blu.
     
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    I honestly just hope they at least extend the end credits for the Bluray. It was so awkward with the quick flashing instead of the scroll.
     
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    It could easy be half an hour of scenes that doesnt work, and only ten minutes of quality material
     
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    So the movie was over 3 hours after all. :lol 
     
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    I'd love an extended edition if it made the movie less choppy and extend the robot fight scenes. I doubt they'll do this tough as the CGI is really expensive.
     
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    The problem isn't that 40 minutes were cut, the problem is that the WRONG 40 minutes were cut.
     
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    They could've just had them all ready to go and the they were all just left out in the final cut.
     
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    And decepticons rolling out without mohawk
     
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    I think it's possible to replace some moments (maybe even whole scenes) in the final/current edit with the Megatron-Optimus story thread and the it would likely improve the movie.
     
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    You completely misread what I said. Good job.

    You've cited movies movies that were all good to begin with. The extra content was a cherry on top in those cases.

    I am yet to see a movie that is poor to begin with get elevated in status significantly following another 40 minutes or so.
     
  20. Prime's Pappa

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    of course the back story was cut...there has not been any backstory in any of these turds so why start now