There are some Exact scenes in Avengers which were copied in DOTM.like captain america running through some explosions is the same as sam running in Dotm

 

Okay. I've seen you on the message boards. Talking shit towards other users, because...? What? Does it make you feel big? Strong? "Oh, look at me, I can type douche-y things! Der De Der!" I'm so impressed, you can type illogical, stupid points... On the internet! NO ONE ELSE IS DOING THAT! Oh, and because YOU used the word "themes" in the wrong way, I'm clueless? I was genuinely mistaken when I thought you meant themes when you said themes! Sue me! I thought, "Maybe, just, maybe Crainy's found something in DOTM that I just wasn't seeing! Maybe it was an artsy examination of hope like MOS but packaged in an Independence Day style fun ride!". Oh, and just so you know, I DON'T think those two are the same. I think Independence Day is just in a similar genre. Come on, say it with me. Genre.

So, I will part with the immortal words of Optimus Prime, as written by DrSmoov,

"You are a dumbass!"

 

"You're a dumbass too, hoist!"

 

I hear ya on all counts; and when I was thinking of the controversial ending I was thinking more along the lines of how Optimus handled Sentinel Prime. That just echoed immensely during the whole Zod battle and final solution. The realism of it as a whole I think is what has left an uneasy, yet realistic and "damn straight!!!" feeling with me ever since I saw it.

Superman, as noted in many articles and posts, is 75 years old and was the basic boy scout that is no longer really relevant in today's society. I think the whole Kryptonian battle for earth and fierce final battle was is what made it not feel like Superman of old and brought it forward to current day. I agree with on all counts about not really having a choice with Zod, as you say, what exactly would you do with him? He made it clear his soul was destroyed and he would make it his new purpose to hurt Superman and destroy Earth. Uh, no talking him down on that one lol.

I did love the ride...visually overwhelming, but a ride I want to take again that's for sure.

 

It's all good, and yeah, I will admit that internet between 1-3 is definitely better than what's on cable between 1 and 3  . And I wasn't trying to bad mouth MOS or anything like that, I'm one of those that can enjoy both movies and take them for what they are. I have been a TF fan since G1 (so now about 30 years) more than anything, but my world doesn't revolve around Transformers. What they did was DOTM was truly awesome, and although I do see similarities between them, overall they are different stories and executed much differently.

I agree with you that from what I've seen, MOS has been divisive, but that's good right? It means we all like different things, we have our own ideas and we can debate them. I find myself able to deal with the way Optimus dealt with Sentinel much easier than they way Superman dealt with Zod, even the same. From an overall concept, it's really the same concept and everything. Individual who wants to enslave the human race/destroy the earth vs individual that wants to rebuild his planet by terraforming Earth and thereby destroying it). I think the shock factor is one is a big robot versus one that is a man and looks human. Do I agree with the end result for Zod....yes, I don't think there was another choice. It's obviously just a much different visual and therefore leaves more of an uneasy feeling....my thoughts on it anyway.

By the way, you should try and sleep more if you can ha ha

 

Well, I balance it out by sleeping till noon.

 

To me Zod was the best part of the film. A real strong candidate for the list of great film villains.

I'm guessing we didn't get as much of Zod as we would have liked because the studio wanted to introduce this new Superman universe to a world wide audience. Lots of things that had to be gotten out of the way to explain why it's not the Superman we might know from TV, comic books, or the cartoons.

Lets just hope that killing Zod has some impact on Superman going forward in whatever sort of franchise they have planned instead of it not being a big deal. Someone suggested that perhaps killing Zod would be a turning point where Superman decides that killing bad guys will just take him down the same path as Zod.

 

While the comparisons between MAN OF STEEL and the Transformers films are there (an alien hidden on Earth, precious hidden alien tech, a scheme to revive a dead world), I'd say MOS had more similarity to the PRIME saga: terraforming, mind-reading, genetically engineered creatures, two rivals who rose beyond their caste to become leaders...

But I will admit that Zod had a better idea with terraforming than Sentinel Prime had with shipping Cybertron to Earth.

True. I watched the film and reviewed it as great but with the same flaws as described. It could have done better, but it did do Superman justice, and did better than DOTM did.

 

Actually, it seems as though you were "forcing" it more than the OP

 

In what fashion?

 

I was particularly struck by Zod's message to Earth requesting the government turn someone over, and then the government agreeing. It felt appropriate and natural in both cases, and I wouldn't call it ripping off or anything, but it was similar.

What did bother me, about both movies, was the way the video message worked. They were both choppy and stylized, which made them look cool and menacing and whatever, but it wasn't realistic at all. MOS could have just been glitchy, but DOTM featured a very complex edit. I don't know that it's the direction I would have gone, because with digital stuff, primitive isn't rough, it's pure. Pure vector type, pure tonal sounds, pure hue colors, etc. Skips and grain and texture take a lot of editing.

 

I agree with the similarities. In transformers it was revenge of the fallen where the government was given the ultimatum by megatro to turn over the autobots. Yes the transformers came first in revenge of the fallen they had always been here remember the seeker pictures with wheelie scene, and in the first movie Megatron had been here since before the begining of the human race frozen in the attic.

 

This says it all really..

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Blockbuster films always have a lot in common with each other. I'm sure filmmakers borrow a lot from each other quite on purpose and as long as the result is great I'm not going to complain. Man of Steel was quite exciting. I think Dark of the Moon is great. And neither one of them actually felt familiar to me.

 

A big difference is that DOTM had a better villian who didn't talk in a weird lisp.

 

Ouch! Man of Steel wasn't that bad. Louis Lane kinda was.

Because it's all part of the plan...

OP I can kinda see what you're talking about, but I think the parallels are pretty slim.
I mean Superman has been around what, 75 years now? I'm sure this exactly same scenario happened in the comics decades ago.
As far as we know DOTM was based off of a Superman comic.
It could also be the new Hollywood formula for years to come now.

 

When I watched MOS I was impressed at how far Hollyood has gotten in perfecting special effects. It was really something else.

In comparison with DOTM you can really discern the two movies easily and I can't help but wonder how much more epic TF4 is goi g to be.

The acting is MOS is what was missing in DOTM and something that I would like improved for TF4.

 

You need to check out a movie called "Bug" to see the actor that played Zod in all of his glory. He's intense.

 

if you were to compare, Compare DOTM and battle L.A, you will see much more similarities

 

I liked MOS.

That is all.

 

What I appreciated about DOTM more than MOS? We saw people getting vaporized!

In Snyder's world, if we would have seen some people getting ground into a mist-like powder when that concussion-wave from the Terraformer hit, it would have made the scene even more terrifying, and made you want Superman to really work harder to stop this.

It's hard to believe, but in DOTM, I felt more emotions for the people in Chicago, than Metropolis. Then again, in MOS, Perry White and the Planet staff stay in their high-rise building until the terraform ring is dangerously close.