Bay: We've Redesigned Everything From Top to Bottom in TF4. It's Not a Reboot.

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Albershide, Feb 2, 2013.

  1. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    They actually didn't, but like a lot in ROTF, it got cut/mucked up. They reference him "playing up" his lack of voice, and there was going to be a much clearer "he can talk but it's very raspy and he's just better with the radio" type deal, even got into one of the trailers.
     
  2. AutobotMaster44

    AutobotMaster44 I'm your Master.

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    I respect Michael Bay...mostly because he makes great movies in my opinion. My thing is, I will still watch the movies even though the characters don't look the same because I love Transformers. It doesn't matter to me. As long as there's giant ass alien robots who turn into cars, and vise-versa, and there are plenty of these... :bay  I have nothing to complain about.
     
  3. Stepper

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    Me will also be watching the movie but if the redesign of the bots are much decent looking,will consider buying them.
     
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    Basically Hasbro wants new toy designs.
     
  5. motorthing

    motorthing Too old for this $hit

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    And basically it's about fucking time.

    If we have to have Transformers that look little or nothing like the TFs of old could we not beg that the concept designers that make Iron Man and Marvel films look damn good are the ones that show the next book of "Awwww Cool Space Robots that turn into Cars and junk....." to Hasblo and the Producers rather than the wankers that came up with Film Megatron and other godawful lumps like Bonecrusher?

    Is that too much to ask for after some much ugliness?
     
  6. Stepper

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    Frankly speaking,even if they i doubt they redesign,i don't think they will look like the TFs of old.
     
  7. Gingerchris

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    Indeed. I'm just expecting tentacles to replace shards. There's nothing to say a redesign has to look more like older TF designs styles. This redesign could go even further away from that. By TF9 BayFormer TransFormer robot mode designs will just be differently-coloured fart clouds in glass jars. Alt mode will just be a sticker turned to the front of the jar that reads 'TRUCK' or 'JET'.
     
  8. Ash from Carolina

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    Until they come out with some promotional images or Hasbro leaks images of the movie toys, yea redesign could mean anything. It could be a mix of old and new like War for Cybertron or it could be something so alien to what has come before they everyone is going who the heck is that.

    Honestly at this point I have no idea what they will look like but if I had to put money on it I'd put my wager on not that much change from what we have already gotten in movie designs.
     
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    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Old Crap, New Package.
     
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    Man, some of the posts here make me actually wonder how you people function in society.
     
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    Makes sense they are in the business of selling toys so the change would have been expected at some point.
     
  12. Ash from Carolina

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    The first movie I could cut them lots of slack because there was so much new being attempted at once. Really hard to nail everything right the first time when there wasn't a template to go by on how to make a Hasbro property appealing to the mainstream and translate Transformers into a live action format when the brand has been all over the creative map since the '80s.

    But yea I've gotten that same feeling of I've seen the same movie three times in a row only with a slightly different robot and human cast. The change in robots doesn't seem like a big deal though since only a few robots get lines. I really can't look forward to a fourth time of the Decepticons need a magical McGuffin to win and after about the half way mark it's a fairly easy win for the Autobots and humans to kill enough Decepticons to end the movie. Same basic story elements and plots three times in a row is just really disappointing if you like an interesting story to follow instead of just leave your brain in the car entertainment.
     
  13. NathanS

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    Yeah, doing the same basic thing is something you can usually get away with for about three movies. Take the original three Indy films, I'd say they have more variation between films then the TF movies, but they are fundamentally very similar. They did three, and people were satisfied, we had enough variation on the basic theme to be full and not really want another Indy film right away.

    The TF movies are facing that problem, at least in the US. People liked them, but are getting tad full. I think they might be inspired by the success of things like Harry Potter and it's what, eight films? But that's also an ongoing story, people came back to see how the story ended. The TF films are episodic, sure they basically pull the old "The End, OR IS IT?" thing but that's not really the same as being part of a single serialized story.

    Even with episodic long running movies like Star Trek, almost all of the original films were very distinct story wise, and that's what help it it fresh. Though notably the writers of the reboot and new take on the film series seem to be doing two "villain out for revenge" films in a row. Almost as if they just write the same basic thing over and over, not that observation would have anything to do with the writing in a TF film, no sir...

    That's what makes giving the bots a makeover more then just good from a toy selling view point. Since film is visual if something looks new enough it can feel new, even if the product is the same. But even that's a gamble, if people are full of the current story will a new package be enough? Hard to say, yet even bigger is can something being done by the same director even have enough of a different package? Bay has a very distinct style after all.

    Well time will tell, it always does.
     
  14. Gingerchris

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    At the very least things should hopefully be different. Whether it's 'different good' or 'different bad' isn't actually my real concern at the moment. I mostly just want 'different'.
    I still function...
     
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    They aren't movie fanboys for starters.
     
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    I really don't see how they can resdesign everything without it being a reboot... Especially when you have the convoluted plots of previous entries..........

    Still... I'd just suggest doing what I did for DotM... shut your brain off... and enjoy the mindless bot smashing fest when they're around... ignore the humans.
     
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    Hollywood has gotten a bit shall we say weird. They want everything a reboot can give, but they are so scared that they might upset some people of the previous films the word "reboot" is treated like the worst word ever. They want some magic pill that will make more people happy without daring to upset anyone that might have been happy in the first place.

    So you get the not-reboot reboot of things like GI Joe. Scared to death that someone might have actually liked GI Joe Rise of Cobra they were unwilling to throw everything out. But key characters get killed off, new stars take over the big roles, and costumes change so that Cobra Commander actually looks like Cobra Commander and Snake Eyes doesn't have lips on his mask.

    Personally I liked the old days better when movies weren't afraid to just start over. But with fewer and fewer Americans going to movie theaters the studios just aren't bold enough to start over any more.
     
  20. Knightdramon

    Knightdramon Hasbro LIES to the US

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    Funnily enough, for various reasons, the first movie did turn out to be much better in many aspects than the other two. Since the first movie had a more limited budget than the other two, and they were still experimenting with the designs and how they move, you had [in my opinion] richer robot interaction. The battle at Mission City may have been outdated by the other two movies, but it presented a group of six or so Decepticons as a damn THREAT. Multiple fronts [Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz versus Brawl, Ironhide and Ratchet against Starscream, Megatron versus Jazz, Bumblebee versus Brawl and so on] with limited bots. In the other two movies hordes of Decepticons were mowed down so easily that even if they were named characters, you wouldn't give a damn about the battle.