TCracker,

In Ratchet's case, the sled is cannon in the cartoon. So I'm guessing, Takara will probably include it if in case it gets turned into an MP.

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But that's the only scene in the entirety of G1 the sled ever appears! I'd rather not have a 5-second gimmick that would massively alter the look, feel and transformation of such an important character.


It'd be like colouring Skywarp to look like Starscream because of that one time he was miscoloured.

 

Not quite since that was an animation error and the sled was intentional...but I agree it's unnecessary. But I wouldn't complain if they do a sled if it makes for a better figure in the end. In other words, do I 'want' a sled? No. Would I be pissed if I got one? Not in the least if the figure came out good and accurate.

 

^I love this guy!

1) I can have the sled, I guess. I'd rather it not if it cut the cost down. If it was irrelevant to the cost, then I don't care, I'll just fling it into a drawer somewhere.

2) Each limb: price-point of a Lambor/Alert. Central Body: price-point of Soundwave.

3) Not even a little. Repro-labels are dirt cheap for a worse case scenario.

 

No less ridiculous regardless of intention  


I just don't see a need for it. The way Lambor's legs transform could easily be used to hide wheels, bumpers etc. The chest could easily transform similar to Prime's to hide front wheels etc. The sled would just remove mass from the toy that could be use to make the mold bigger and better.

The vanette alt mode isn't particularly large so I think all of the mass in it is gonna be needed if they intend to make Ironhide and Ratchet as big as they are in the TT robot scale chart.

 

1) Maybe.. but I think I would prefer no sled. That would help give them some well needed bulk.

2) Depends on the combiner. Devestator, $160 per component. Scramble-city type combiner, $175 for the core/torso figure, and say $80 for limb component. These being pre-import prices.

3) Was it in the show?? If it wasn't in the show, I see no reason for it to be on the figure. It's a nice nod, but not necessary.

 

Yes, but in thise case, it's also being faithful to the toy, unlike the coloring error you speak off. In a way it's a bit similar to Prime's combat deck appearance. There were a number of similarly short/inaccurate appearances, but the one short appearance that was accurate to the toy is the one that made it to MP Prime. In any case, who's to say Takara couldn't figure out a way to make it work?

 

1. Sled or not, i don't care so long as robot mode and alt mode look good.

2. $70x4 + $130 x 1 = 280+140 = 420ish? This is assumign limbs are slightly bigger than $60 sideswip and main torso is about seeker size....so bigger than any 3rd party once combined. However if they go for bot mode accuracy scale wise in combined form....I'd pay more...because that would be gigantic.

3. Jazz is fine without logo. overall Color scheme i s must though. Reprolabels woudl take care of it for those who need the martini logos. i mean the toon didn't have the martini logos and i'm sure repro would jump at the opportunity. granted its not as nice as a nice tampoprinted logo but it'd do.

 

But...the toy was and is a piece of shit? Why would you want to replicate that? At least Prime's combat deck doesn't compromise his robot mode or ability to transform. The sled adds nothing to the van bros.



I'm not one to harp on about self-containment when it comes to Transformers, but I expect a robot in disguise to be capable of transforming without dependency on some massive chunk of plastic. It's partsforming at its worst, because the result sucks.

 

1) Would prefer no sled but don't care if it comes with it.

2) The only one I would want is Devastator... probably no more than $400 total but not sure I would pay that even.

3) Wouldn't matter to me.

 

I like the iGear van bros. They're not perfect but they come pretty dang close. Personally, it's no sleds for me, thanks. I dislike partsforming unless it serves a specific purpose (like combiners), and emulating the G1 toy for the sake of that crappy gimmick makes no sense to me (might as well not give MP van bros. any heads aside from faceless windscreen chests while we're at it). As far as I can tell, the sleds were shown exactly once in the show during the 3-parter pilot ep and then just disappeared. Good riddance, I say.

 

I wouldn't. My point is, modern toy engineering could possibly make it in such a way that we get a toy that is both accurate to the cartoon, while still being somewhat faithful to the original toy.

I'm not saying Takara *must* produce a sled at all costs, just saying it's possible they could make it and still produce a really good robot mode. If they choose to ignore the sled, well I can live with that.

 

I'm in with the folks who think MP-20 will be Megatron 2.0, and that the next most obvious large MP is going to be Ultra Magnus. I'm hoping that both arrive in 2013, but who knows. After that, I think that Shockwave (although I already have Quakewave waiting to ship, because he turned out awesome) and Galvatron are the only ones I'm fairly certain we'll see made. After that, anything will please me, whether it's Reflector, Astrotrain, Blitzwing, or Devastator. I'd say the Insecticons, which I'd buy again, but I got the 3rd party ones, and never really liked the Insecticons to begin with.

I think combiners are doable so long as they release Dinobots to complement them, and I think that Devastator should come first, then Menasor or Bruticus (I love both of those equally, maybe Menasor a tad more?). I'm not really hoping to see Aerialbots until waaay later. I'd rather get a good Skyfire than Aerialbots, to be honest.

 

I'm sure TT could do it and make it work, but I'm sticking by my hatred of unnecessary partsforming.


Ultra Magnus in time for christmas would be wicked  


Skyfire would too be a nice choice. He'd have to be about MP01 size though wouldn't he?

 

One thing I miss from the "Good Ol' Days" MP series (MP-01 - MP-07) was that they used to sneak in little cues to who was being made next, generally on the figure itself. For example, they used the MP-01, MP-02, and MP-04 telecommunicators, and if I'm not mistaken even the Black Prime arm comm screen to reveal the next-in-line release. Did they also tease on the box or instructions? I can't remember, but I feel like each release teased what was going to be the next.

I'm hoping (maybe just wishful thinking) that since Soundwave came with an updated Megatron, that MP-20 will be Megs 2.0 and will come with the full stock/suppressor this time, much like MP-10 was the first full release of Prime + trailer + Roller (Roller being sadly omitted with MP-04 and the entire trailer omitted with MP-01). And unless you count Soundwave + Minions as 5 Decepticons (which I do, because they are, but I only count them as 3 "full" MP releases) we've had a TON of Autobots released since MP-08 (Grimlock, although old scale, still works fairly well in the new scale, so I count him for now... then Rodimus, Optimus, Sideswipe, Red Alert, Prowl, Bluestreak, and Smokescreen.

That's 8 Autobots counting Grimlock and Rodimus, 6 counting MP-10-forward, with only 4 Decepticon releases (Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage/Rumble, Frenzy/Buzzsaw), 6 if you count them all individually, and I guess maybe 7/8/9 if you count TRUcracker and Acid Storm or Sunstorm, which I don't count those 3 at all since they're not TakTomy or "full" releases.

Besides the Autobot cars, which are anyone's guess at this point (although my likeliest bet is on Ratchet/Ironhide or maybe Jazz next), I think we'll get MP-20 as Megs, with a Seeker repaint as either Skywarp 2.0 (where my hope lies first) or Thundercracker 2.0, or as Coneheads, with Ultra Magnus and a car (or two!) and their repaints to help even out the Seeker releases. That would easily get us through the MP-Twenties, with hopefully one more "Leader" size (new sculpt, not counting Seekers, that is) in there besides maybe Soundblaster. I'm hoping we get Ratbat with an official Shockwave by MP-30, but I wouldn't be totally shocked to see him with Soundblaster as others feel.

 

I'm fairly confident that Takara will give us the battle sleds. I mean, MP-09 Rodimus had his battle station, and that wasn't ever shown in the cartoon. And MP Rodimus was very cartoon accurate. I'm not even sure if the battle station trailer even had an animation model. But they will do battle sleds for the same reason they did the Rodimus battle sled. Toy homage and transformation.

 

this is what i'm hoping for

 

MP-01 had Starscream and Bumblebee.

 

But Ultra Magnus has unnecessary partsforming...  



 

 

Without. The "sleds" aka leftover kibble only existed in the first place because of engineering limitations of their awful G1 toy representations. As much as I hate to give them credit, iGear just showed everyone how well you can get a pretty accurate bot mode out of a van design without any ridiculous partsforming.

For a MP Devastator, I'd easily pay $100-$150 per figure as long as they were at least as 3/4 tall as MP Soundwave.

Without is fine. Reprolabels can take care of it if it's missing from the production version.