This is true.

But then these threads are also so entertaining when they happen that I'd hate it if everyone just waited for something more concrete before posting their opinions.

 

I think we can be sure of a few things:

- There will be a Tf movie
- Micheal Bay will come back to direct 5 and 6, because he's getting a boatload of money to do these movies, so why shouldn't he.
- There will be robots
- There will be humans

I don't get why anything else matters. Reboot? Not a reboot? Story? No story.

People will still go see it even those that say they aren't, otherwise, they'd have nothing to b1tch about.

 

Not the same location twice? Sounds a lot like the other three. Definitely excited!

 

All this back and forth is to hint on the title of the movie.

Reboots in disguise.

 

More films = more toys and sadly more poor games by High Moon Studios.

I thought people would be happy at the potential of Hot Rod being introduced.

 

I dunno so much about that. Depends if stores want any more TF movie toys. Or at least TF movie toys in any significant numbers. They seemed to be kinda reluctant near the end of the DotM run to get the remaining stuff in, and quite a bit of it is still kicking about even this long after DotM came and went.

I mean I know there'll be movie toys, but there'd be TF toys anyway, movie or not. And the movie toys will likely steamroller over other figures so it won't be so much 'more toys' as just 'different toys'.

 

All the butthurt here is so hilarious XD.

 

Lately it seems like movie toy lines are more of a curse than a blessing. Avengers and Spiderman toys still sitting on the shelves means many retailers haven't bothered to stock anything else Marvel related. GI Joe nearly died as a toy line when the first film toys flopped. Even with Transformers it felt like retailers weren't stocking very hard around Christmas because they were still upset over how the Dark of the Moon toys didn't move.

Even the quality of the toys seem like they take a nosedive when it's movie time.

 

Iron Man 2 toys are still plentiful on shelves here, after four years. The main problem with the toylines for most movies (as I see it) is that once the movie is off the big screen, everyone's moved onto the next big thing. You need something on the level of Star Wars toys to buck that trend.

 

Quality is falling even when there isn't a movie. I guess the movies didn't bring as much money and new customers as Hasbro hoped otherwise they'd not be having to cut so much now.

I think like with off-movie times there also needs to be a better plan for when there is a movie out. There's a fairly short window when the film is in cinemas to sell figures from it so perhaps it needs bigger and varied waves out for shorter than small similar waves that sit around for months and block other new stuff being ordered and then stores lose interest because the earlier stock isn't shifting. These movies aren't really the magic selling bullet they used to be and are perhaps now kinda dragging the non-movie stuff down with it.

There shouldn't be movie stuff hanging around shelves this long after the film has come and gone. Somebody somewhere got their sums wrong and it's just going to keep happening and affect stuff that isn't movie product.

But maybe, and this brings things back to the topic of the thread, a fresh start with the film style will bring a little of the selling power of the first movie back.

Don't worry - I'm sure you can get some cream for that. Or at least a special cushion for when you sit down. At least you're finding it funny, so that helps. They say laughter is the best medicine, perhaps even for cases of butthurt.

 

^This. and the fact they overstock them so damn much. the 2007 movie was the first time since Star Wars where the toylines based on a movie actually sold out like crazy and unfortunately everyone else has been replicating it since.

 

for the matrix please put in magnus.

 

"To boot or reboot?, that is the question"



Whatever, you know we're going to see it either way.



 

 

Reboot means starting over from the top. Like Batman Begins or The Amazing Spider-Man.

What Bay, Di Bonaventura, et al are describing is not technically a reboot but something called a "soft reboot"
like X-Men: First Class, and (a perfect example) Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides.

In a soft reboot, old characters, storylines and designs get cycled out and replaced with new ones, typically because the creative team has changed. However these changes take place in-universe for narrative reasons, and they don't re-hash origin stories.

You can think of it like in Doctor Who when the Doctor regenerates, changes the TARDIS interior, and gets a new companion. The style of the story has shifted, but everything that happened before is still technically canon - it's just that nobody really mentions it again.

 

Win.

 

With the variety of ways that Hollywood has experimented with when it comes to freshening up a franchise or reinvigorating a franchise perhaps it's just easier to lump things as reboot rather than search around for exactly the right word to describe it. In the end only the continuity geeks will really care exactly what sort of change it actually is since the general public will just see it as a reboot.

Although not being a reboot doesn't save a franchise from having to repeat the origin stuff. If they think that Transformers 4 will bring a large audience of new viewers then at some point expect Optimus to explain the origin thing to the new humans. Even in the Potter films they often repeated the Harry Potter/Lord Voldemort origin just in case the series picked up new viewers.