Movie Megatron's Head Will NOT Look Like The Leaked Images

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Super_Megatron, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. Foster

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  2. Ziero

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    Actually if the movie *is* crap, the most mature thing to do would be accept the fact that the movie is crap and make it the butt of many many many future jokes to come. Bragging, whether you're for or against something is immature. You don't rub victory in the faces of those who are defeated, that's bad sportsmanship and down right rude, regardless of what side you're on. Celebrating a victory is ok as long as it's not at the expense of the ones who lost. If the movie is good and people make 'OMG that movie was awesome' type topics, that's celebrating, if they make 'Omg the movie was awesome and you Nay Sayers suck cause you were wrong' type topics, that's bragging. One is ok, the other is not, at least by proper sportsmanship manners anyway.

    And what's this 'afraid of it stuff' you mention? Afraid of what, the movie sucking? If it sucks, oh well, too bad I was wrong I'm not going to lose anything because of it. If it's good, great, we were right. Either way this won't cause any major drastic changes in anything as there will always be people with differing opinions as to how good something is or not. No amount of box office numbers, critic reviews or raving fandoms will change the opinion of someone who steadfastly believes something. As pointed out before, Titanic won rave reviews, big box office numbers and numerous awards, but I still think the film sucked. And there will be opinions like that about this movie too when it comes out, regardless of how it does or what side you're on.
     
  3. OmegaVPrimus

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    Very true, I have high expectations for the movie. And if it is good, well hey I might see it as manytimes as possible. And if it is semi ok, then I will just hope that it adds alot to the franchise. Other than that, good sportsmanship is a must when dealing with angry fanboys. ^.^
     
  4. REDLINE

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    wow, so two pages of discussion/debate/arguing over "I told you so" ?? :( 
     
  5. Vangelus

    Vangelus Long Live the New Flesh Moderator Content Contributor

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    I told you so.

    *smug*
     
  6. KA

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    sure, yeah, but who told you so to tell him so?

    ME.
     
  7. Quantum_Penguin

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    HE TELL YOU!
     
  8. cappeca

    cappeca wtf is this?

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    Sure, but it doesn't matter in the end, because we know this is internet and we know *both* will happen. The difference here is that I'm not judging in advance those who might not be so polite about it. Rub it up, I can take it, it won't change the end result.

    Yep. You guys are predicting reactions from other fans and already building up a defense against them. And I really don't know why is that, because I don't think you'll naturally be the focus of such attention. I don't believe Zie or Shaun chose the definitive design for Bionicle Prime, so if the movie bombs, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna direct my own "I told you so"'s to the guys who actually screwed up, not fellow fans who were optimistic and believed in it. *IF*, on the other hand, such fans feel somewhat offended when I name the names and blame the blames, then tough luck. *That's* what I don't approve of the "childish" remark. It automatic generalizes and dismisses any criticism that might be proven right, just for being afraid of hearing "I told you so". What's so offensive about it. One should take the criticism if one deserves it. Not admitting defeat is the actual bad sportsmanship.

    This is my perspective: if some designer, producer, whatever will be entitled to all the praise and joy that comes with the success, he is unconditionally entitled to the bash and name calling that comes with the failure.

    Whatever is left for opinions, the end result will be stated one way or another. Surely you don't have to vote, but a president will be elected just the same. You can hate him all you want and discuss about it all you want, the majority still has formed an opinion and put it to effect. Regarding the movie, box office numbers will definately state if the naysayers were right or wrong. You can still have your argument afterwards, the difference is that it will be *tested*.
     
  9. Feralstorm

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    I told him to do a barrel roll.
     
  10. Galaxy Convoy

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    It's not hard to do, based on how some people have conducted themselves. Who's more likely to make a childish "I told you so" thread, someone who's voiced their distaste for the movie in well thought out and calm fashion, or someone whose ranted that Micheal Bay is raping their childhood and threatened to kill him or make him pay, and lashed out and insulted those who like what they've seen?

    You know the old saying, "If it quacks like a duck...". Well it's been quacking like a duck for a couple months now.
     
  11. Ziero

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    And I'm saying that regardless of the outcome it's still not polite to brag about it. There are lots of people who can take flames, insults and adult content, but it's still not something that you post on the boards. Yes it will happen, but that doesn't mean it should be accepted and praised.

    You're not talking to designers, producers and directors here, you're talking to other fans. Bragging that your opinion was right and theirs was wrong. If you want to brag to the people who made this film that they were wrong and you were right, do it directly to them. Go to their forums, send *them* messages, voice your distaste of the film to *them* not us. Telling the people who made it is not childish, and it was never stated that it was. Telling people who liked what they saw and put faith in the people making it that they were wrong however is, and that's what should not happen. As long as you post here to say you're opinion was right and other people here were wrong, you are not directing anything at the people who made the film you're basically telling half the fandom 'I told you so'.

    You're right, absolutely 100% correct. But how does bragging to us that you were right accomplish that? As I said before, if someone makes a topic saying 'this movie sucked' that's not bragging, that's stating an opinion and creating discussion. But if they made a topic 'this movie sucked and all you pro movie people are dumb for being wrong', that's bragging and saying 'I told you so'. If I see this movie and think it sucks then I will gladly accept the fact I was wrong and make jokes about how crappy it was along with everyone else. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, heck I'm wrong all the time, but I don't need some ass hat throwing it in my face. And conversly if this film is great I won't be rude enough to throw it in other people's faces nor would I condone such behavior.

    Godzilla have fairly good box office numbers, special effects and was a decent flick to watch, the only thing really bad about it was that it was called Godzilla. Yet people *still*, myself included, insists it sucks and was a horrible horrible movie. People who hate something won't be swayed by the majority and, especially with movies, the numbers don't always speak for every group. There is a good chance that this film will be a Box Office success, yet largely hated by the fandom.

    Also, do me a favor. Find a post where I said this movie will be good. Where I definitively stated that as a fact. Can't find anything? That's cause I never said whether it will be good or bad. That's because I don't know enough about this film to make up my mind. All I know is some specific, possible plot leaks, some I like and some I don't, and a few unconfirmed but highly likely designs that again, some I like and some I don't. You may have made up your mind about this film, but I, and many other people, haven't. So you can stop your little 'you're afraid of being wrong' thing because I personally never said either way how this film will go.

    bored at work ftl
     
  12. The Phazer

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    Yep. And maybe they'll learn to listen to me in future and become better people by doing so, because I'm right more often than they are.

    There are a lot of people in the movie forum who've been pretty insulting to anyone who has suggested that the design work on this film has been bad and it's deviated too far from it's source material. If that is correct, why shouldn't we call those people on it? I told you so isn't insulting on that case - the people who are insulted have been insulted by themselves, because they made a fool of themselves by being wrong.

    I'm sorry, but by no measure can Godzilla be called a box office success. It just about clawed back it's budget, but that isn't enough for a film company - they could have just stuck the money in a bank and got a better return.

    Godzilla was a flop.

    Phazer
     
  13. Ziero

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    Comments like that are not necessary. -2005 Staff

    The design work in the end is a matter of opinion as people who don't like the designs now will more then likely still not like them after seeing the movie regardless of how it does. Whether this film is a success or not I still think OP looks awesome and SS looks crappy. The amount of money this film makes, or amount of success it sees will not change that. There is no 'right' or 'wrong' in that regard and in the end, unless someone absolutely loathes or loves the design, will not affect it's success.

    Actually this is the whole reason WHY it's not polite to say I told you so, it just adds insult to injury. If people are wrong, know they are wrong and accept that they are wrong, why do you have to go shoving it in their face? To appease your own ego for being right?

    I said it did fairly good, meaning it covered and exceeded it's costs in the US market alone. It cost 130 million to make and made over 370 million world wide. That's a 240 million profit, hence the 'fairly good' comment.
     
  14. Shaun_C

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    Wow, that's.......pretty arrogant Phazer. And you are right more often then who exactly?:peoples: 

    It's a circle Phazer, by that same token there have been remarks saying "Real fans wouldn't like the design" or that anyone liking the designs are on Paramount's payroll to like 'em" or other more "crude" things. It's gets to the point where someone needs to stop throwing stones.I mean someone needs to be the bigger person and "break the cycle" so to speak.

    Anyone posting "I told you so" will just be continuing the cycle
     
  15. OmegaVPrimus

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    Hmmm, anyways, that rant hopefully being over, I conclude that the design of the head resembles a G1 megs head......The Mullet" :D 
     
  16. Deefuzz

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    Let's knock it off, this thread is moving away from being about Megatron's head change and more about schoolyard bantering.

    Get it back on topic.
     
  17. Feralstorm

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    I figured out what the change is!

    For the sake of "Classic G1" accuracy, the glowing blue eyes of the design will be replaced by red ones.

    *cough*
     
  18. Frognal

    Frognal Prodigal Son Returned

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    Nah, they decided that Megatron's face was too humanoid looking and replaced the eyes with a bigger butthole.
     
  19. matadormi5

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    I was just starting to like the design, especially how it looks like a Mechaniod Satan.