Michael Bay Fires Back At Hugo Weaving

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  1. Ephland

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    Sorry, but we disagree.
     
  2. Starscream Gaga

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    Disagree on what? Are you able to find whining when there is none?
     
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    Bring back Frank Welker!
     
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    hrhrhr, he back fired, Beavis, hrhrhrhr
     
  5. Ephland

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    Probably a lot of stuff.
     
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    Okay, clearly you don't have any proper answer, so I'll just end it. It's a bit lame though that you would say stuff with questionable logic and when people call you out on it not adding up you just ignore it and give pointless answers after taking out the reason that your posts are illogical.
     
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    That would be nice but, I seriously doubt that Mr. Bay has the integrity to hire Mr. Welker as it would be a justification of him (Bay) being wrong about Mr. Welker's performance as Megatron, ego is a very powerful thing.
     
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    Who cares Megatron is dead... I repeat Michael Bay "MEGATRON IS DEAD"!!! You killed him off remember?!? Let's not repeat like naming the Decepticon tank Devastator then calling a combiner in the next movie Devastator.
     
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    This man is correct.
     
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    This is actually not very surprising at all. As much as the fans of the movieverse say you have to turn off your brain to enjoy these movies, seems like Bay expects the actors to turn off their integrity to make them.
     
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    Fair enough....

    We disagree on this point. Bay was specifically reacting to what Weaving discussed in the interview. He makes a point to reference the amount of time the work took, which is something Weaving spoke about in his interview.

    So because Michael Bay is speaking of whining, and because your opinion of what Hugo Weaving said wasn't whining, therefore Michael Bay was not talking about what Hugo Weaving said? Sorry, but we disagree on this point.

    So because people have a different opinion than you, it means that your comprehension is better than theirs? Sorry, but we disagree on this point.

    We absolutely disagree on this point.
     
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    Yes, it is clear that Bay is retaliating to what Weaving said, but what he is referring to is not there. He speaks about whining for most of the passage, but Weaving was neither whining nor complaining, he was stating how he was empathetic to the job. That's not whining in the slightest.
    So yes, Bay was reacting to the fact Weaving has somehow hurt his ego, but no, he was not reacting to what was actually said. From the looks of things he was probably told by someone else that Weaving was whining and didn't actually take time to read it, because again, even if his ego was hurt by Weaving's empathy, there was absolutely no whining.

    No, its not my opinion. What is whining and what is not whining is not opinion, it is reality. The definition of whining is to "complain in a feeble or petulant way". Weaving was not complaining, no matter which way you look at it.


    No, I can know for a fact that my comprehension is better then theirs if they do not understand the difference between whining and showing empathy to one of many jobs.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but not a word in Bay's passage makes me believe he is defending the franchise and not his own ego. Nor does he be seem to be trying to look like he is defending the franchise, there isn't even the slightest of implications in either person's quotes that insult or defend the franchise.
     
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    Michael Bay is such a douche. Once again, this was all about his ego.

    And I love the "elephant rescue charity" bit, that calculated bit of publicity engineering to cast himself in a righteous light. Ever the (heavy-handed) director.

    zmog
     
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    Well see who resides at the head of the snake for your answer:

    Don Murphy-

    Nelson-

    Doesn't it seem to reason that they would attract like-minded fans?
     
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    So this is basically about the semantics of the word "whining?"

    Actually, Weaving was not "showing empathy" to a job. He was specifically saying he had no interest or connection to the job whatsoever.

    That's your opinion. And it's different than mine. Doesn't mean you're wrong, doesn't mean I'm wrong. It simply means we disagree.
     
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    Yeah. I read the Hugo article, and he wasn't saying anything that a hundred-thousand voice actors haven't said before. Let me just do a play-by-play of the interview.



    So he was working on another project, and squeezing in a quick 2 hours in the recording booth worked out nicely for him.

    So he was never into TFs, never watched the show, or played with the toys, and therefore had no attachment to the property.

    Being polite and candid.

    Aware that his part in the trilogy was minimal.

    Nowhere in here is he insulting Michael Bay or the TF movies. In fact, he takes a jab at himself, calling himself pathetic for being so uninvested in his role. But nowhere does he berate the movies or Bay. If anything, his comments are more directed at the nature of voice acting. Seriously, these are the same criticisms made by any and every voice actor that's had to dub anime in a booth alone- speaking lines with no clue what the context is.

    So in conclusion- Bay was throwing a temper tantrum without realizing that no one was insulting him or his movies.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    This is exactly why his Transformers movie were terrible and Transformers 4 is going to be just as bad. Bay has no artistic integrity. He is simply making a product designed to maximize profit. He puts no feeling into his work, he has no passion, and he has no respect for his art form. He makes these movies where the plot and characterization is horrible, and then he wants to act surprised that the respectable actors in the cast sound off about it? Lets be clear, Weaving did not bash Bay or the franchise or even complain, he simply said that he regretted the fact that he did not care about this piece of voice over work that he did.

    the money quote for me from Bay is:
    "What happened to people who had integrity, who did a job, got paid for their hard work, and just smiled afterward?"

    A real director of quality motion pictures would never say something like this.

    I've said it before, and this temper tantrum only confirms it, Bay was never the right man for this because he cares NOT ONE BIT for the material or the project. it's just a vehicle for him to make money and gain influence, period.
     
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    Let's say you run a company, and you've hired someone to do a specific job. Like with every job, they are all tied to the success of the company, and the success of the company is important to you, because you're running it. You're invested in that company.

    That person does the work, and then at some point they leave your company and go to another company. It eventually gets back to you that the person has been telling people that they cared nothing about their job at your company. That the work was meaningless, they had nothing invested in it, had basically no idea what was going on, and just showed up and did the work.

    That person isn't complaining about your company. They haven't criticized you or the work. They've simply said that their time working for your company meant absolutely nothing to them.

    If that's you and your company, are you not somewhat insulted by that? Don't you kind of wonder why that, even if true, needed to be shared?
     
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    Ebay:
    Did we read the same interview? There wasn't anything rant-y about it!