Out Of The Dead Land

Discussion in 'Transformers Funnies' started by Coolhand, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. Anodythe

    Anodythe Well-Known Member

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    Ah Mirage...thanks for the chuckle! Have you thought that with Optimus gone there would be no one to protect your back when you leave his office?

    CH...you a lawyer or sumpin'?
     
  2. Greyryder

    Greyryder Kitbashed

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    After utterly failing to fix a hole in the side of a robot, his scientist credentials were revoked. Now, he lives in a van-former, down by the river.

    Sorry, did I say that out loud?
     
  3. Pun-3X

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    Okay, I love how Mirage thinks he can simply talk his way into power. I mean, he is so into himself that he actually BELIEVED he was going to get Optimus Prime in such a way. But I absolutely LOVE how Prime shoots right back with the same tactic...and an even better knowledge. Prime's more than the warrior/soldier Mirage thinks he is. This is what happens when you think everyone is below you.

    As for what happened with Perceptor...I highly doubt Prime is going to let Mirage use it against him. He's already shown he won't back down. But it all depends on WHAT happened with Perceptor. Now, if Prime did something against the laws that allowed him to die, or something along those lines, Mirage might be citing a break in how Prime follows the rules. But it's hard to know anything about that circumstance...until we actually hear about the circumstance.

    You know. By next week. Just so we can get it clarified, of course.

    ...

    ...I feel like there's something I should be doing...

    :confused2 
     
  4. Ellamin

    Ellamin Freedom is the Right of ALL Sentient beings.

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    Whooooo boy, this could have been his chance to be a bit something else than what he's been, a big smug f**king jerkass... but nooooo he had to point out a technicality in the most dickish way in order to try and not only get his ass out of trouble BUT position HIMSELF as the head honcho O_O

    Yeah, OODL Mirage as the big boss of any faction? We'd be boned, hard. And likely a 'mysterious' incident puts him out of commission rather soon in that case...


    But what the hell is he up to now? :popcorn 
     
  6. wyze2099

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    Daaaaamn. Serious courtroom drama is going down, and it is awesome. It kind of reminds me of the scene in the recent Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye annual in which Ultra Magnus ties up a dignitary with his own red tape by citing chapter and verse in a similar manner. It was Magnus' Crowning Moment of Awesome, and Optimus gets a similar one here.

    Seriously, while Optimus has a CMoA trophy wall, it's cool to see that they're not all action-oriented. Sometimes he can be the biggest badass in the room just by citing legal precedents. Can you imagine hearing Peter Cullen acting out Prime's dialogue and just getting more and more intense as he holds his ground. By the final time he dismissed Mirage, it probably sounded like, "don't let the door hit your skidplate on the way out."
     
  7. AMG

    AMG Old School

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    Fantastic update.
     
  8. Lock Cade

    Lock Cade Tarn Fangirl

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    :popcorn 
     
  9. Coolhand

    Coolhand Spiff's Stunt Double

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    :ev: 

    The next update will reveal all...

    "You're in contempt of court."
    "I have nothing BUT contempt for this court!"
    "Me Slag say, is this where we kick the door in now?"

    He can, but if he stops being a dickbag he becomes a douchenozzle.

    Exactly that. :thumbs2: 

    Mirage's play is strengthened by the fact that Prime is officially required to hand power back to the Council at some point. In the OOTDL Universe, A Prime serves only during a time of crisis, and once that Crisis has passed, power is supposed to return to the council. Technically, you could argue that Prime should have already sought to re-construct the council and step down, or you could argue, as Prime does here, that the crisis of the Great War has become the Crisis of a near-exting race facing the Prowl Clones and the Con remnants.

    Though the weight of precedent is in Prime's favour, it's legally grey enough for Mirage to start chiselling away at the cracks...

    And the Perceptor move he's about to play is a very big, very nasty chisel.

    :ev: 

    Me Grimlock say: Me would protect Mirage's back. However, Me make no promises as to Mirage's front, head, legs or arms. Them bits pretty much fair game. But me promise his back stay un-munched.

    Also, Coolhand not lawyer. Coolhand once lost argument with a voice-activated iPhone. That was switched off at the time.

    :lol 
    "I fear the wounds are...fatal."
    "Uh, didn't Prime get totally disassembled once, turned into an alligator and put back together again with no lasting damage? This doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as-"
    "I said FATAL!"

    There's always a bigger fish...or a bigger law geek.

    Next week. No problem.
    We're talking Arcturian weeks here, right? 87 days per week? Good? Cool. :D 

    Whoops! Will get those fixed. Good catch. :thumbs2: 

    In Mirage's defence, his contract with the OOTDL Production studio demands that he act in a total smug jerkass manor at all times. He is allowed exactly one day a year of being a nice, sweet, helpful dude.
    Oddly enough, he never seems to use it.

    Ah, I've not read that. It sounds awesome, I'll have to get hold of a copy.
    If the pen is mightier than the sword, then Red Tape is the ICBM of the written world. :D 
    I do love legal wrangles in stories. 12 Angry Men, A Few Good Men, A Time To Kill, the West Wing. Hell, one of my favourite scenes in the new BattleStar Galactica was the warcrimes trial at the end of season three, in which Lee Adama has his most bad-ass moment of the series. It ain't in a Viper Mark2, it's on a courtroom chair, delivering a speech which was pretty much the character's best moment in my opinion.

    Heh heh. Fear the guy with the gun, but be terrified of the guy who doesn't need one. ;) 

    Thanks. :) 
    Crunch crunch crunch...
     
  10. Shikaze

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    What I find funny here is Mirage.

    By that, I mean that assholish as he is, he did prove he had at least some legal leg to stand on. What he doesn't seem to realise, is the fact that he would face a civil war just as soon as he w-....

    Coolhand, you magnificient bastard !
     
  11. spiritprime

    spiritprime Dudes, I'm a girl!

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    :jawdropper:  I'm speechless. This is just... unexpected.
     
  12. ShadowDragon

    ShadowDragon R to the D to the D yo.

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    No one expects the Scythia Var Inquisition!
     
  13. Polenicus

    Polenicus Warring At Play

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    That is actually the key to the whole thing, Greyrider. What did Perceptor do that is relevant to this whole argument?

    As acting Chief Medical Officer of Autobot City at the time, he recorded Optimus Prime's Time of Death.
     
  14. $5HotRod

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    This update is nothing short of awesome. Just a few questions for Coolhand.

    1) Who is the bigger dick? Mirage or Prowl? Whip 'em out and measure them. I'll supply a tape measure if necessary and no, I do not want it back.

    2) So is Prime officially a "Matrix-fragger" since he...you know...fragged the Matrix? I'm imagining one or both of the twins discussing this topic in-depth.

    3) Why the hell are you not writing for IDW?
     
  15. Z.U.D.O.N

    Z.U.D.O.N Camshaft's Master

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    Hey Coolhand. I've finally caught up with your comics. As always, your comics rule! Very well-written stories, very well-portrayed personalities of the characters, and fantastic GIMP effects! Heck, these words are not even enough to comprehend how fascinated I am at how well you've created "Out of the Dead Land". :thumbs2:  :thumbs2: 

    What I enjoyed a lot was how you showed us the wounds and scars of our fellow Autobots in the past; how Grimlock stuck to his Dinobot traditions and avenging Windcharger by killing Shockwave mercilessly; how the forever-stubborn Mirage tries to get his way out by ordering Optimus in the latest update; how Ravage had schemed to bring back Megatron. :thumbs2: 

    Coming back to OOTDL, holy Primus..! Now we have Megatron back in the flesh (erm maybe "metal" is more appropriate. :lol ) And Grimlock and Mirage are now stripped of their more noble statuses. I wonder what's in store for them.

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    On a side note too, I read a bit about what's been going on in your real life. Glad to hear you managed to release your novel and hope that you'll get excellent reviews soon! :)  Also, I'm glad that your mother is recovering. That was a close call. How is she doing right now?


    Looking forward to reading your next update. :) 


    Oh, and last but not least... my share of bays for you!
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  16. Vagabond Elf

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    Wow. Nice.

    I'm trying to decide if Mirage is really an idiot or not. You see, as someone who does a lot of legal research, my gut says he at least has an arguable matter. There is a great deal of difference between the accidental loss of a symbol, and the deliberate destruction of that symbol by a person who, arguably, should no longer be holding the position in the first place. Prime's precedents are quite plausibly distinguishable.

    However.

    There is no neutral court to submit this to. Even if Mirage is correct, there is no way the rest of the Autobots will follow him, unless there's a large, as-yet unseen group that supports the old noble system. Prime is Ceasar, and the Council is dead and gone. So having legal arguments is pointless.

    Which means, either he's so blinded by his sense of self-worth he's an idiot, or he's after something else. I hope he's after something else. He made the right call back when Dinobot said "no, go get Ravage" and the 'Bots have been being jerks about it ever since. (And no, I don't think this is part of some complex plan, this is something he's thought of while stuck in a gaol cell without trial for who knows how long...) But I fear that he actually thinks this will work, and we're setting him up for a Heel Turn.

    Oh, and on the subject of typos: QuickFlame is used once and then Quickflame the second time.
     
  17. General Magnus

    General Magnus Da Custodes of the Emprah

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    Mirage should have changed, but noooooooo. I mean, he has people telling him how wrong it is and I think I saw some regret.

    Maybe not.
     
  18. deathsheadx

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    Now that would be an interesting twist.
     
  19. BooyakaDragon

    BooyakaDragon I Don't Even Know

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    I'm pretty torn on whether or not Mirage or Optimus Prime is right.
     
  20. battlefudge

    battlefudge Still in the biz...

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    This may be a dumb statement but I think they are both right. Prime is getting himself off on a technicality, and what right did he have to destroy the matrix? However Mirage is fooling himself believing that old titles mean anything. Though I think he may find an ally in Prowl.