ahahahaha fuck we're all dead

 

It's not extremely uncommon in the US for people to have multiple middle names for various reasons. I assume that was the case here.

All and all, I enjoyed the episode. Arrogant & headstrong people on power trips don't plan well, underestimate their 'titan' comrades and end up dissected. That's a moral you can take home and apply to your life.

Seriously though, I've chatted with people about the horrifying prospect of being Knock Out's "patient" before. I shudder to think of what CyLAS is about to endure.



As a sidenote, to the person questioning the acronym a few pages ago:
The other person who said acronyms frequently sub in vowels are correct. The D.N.G.S was pronounced 'DINGAS' in the show in "Convoy".


EDIT:

...nightmare fuel. pure and simple.

 

"Gonzalez" isn't normally a middle name.

 

this is the END of a plot arc that started in season 1.

Faced with the prospect of Silas dying, MECH chose to get all ghoulish and meld man and machine into frankensilas. Driven mad with power, Silasdown destroyed his own cohorts in favor of seeking a seat of at the table of an alien Tyrant (does that seem like a sane idea?) and then lost his only real bargaining chip.

Silas was a fucking nutjob, compared to any real human being. The plot arc is over. A villain over-reached for power and influence and died for it- it's not a failure on the part of the writers, they are writing. Why is it a waste of time to finish a plot arc, so that you can move onto a new major plot arc?(

Spoiler

beast hunters apparently, maybe they are spawn of Unicron, a response to the human filth living on his back

)


Do you really want a show that never wraps up ANY plot arcs? No one ever dies and each episode just becomes a juggling act of giving everyone involved some screentime and significance? do you want g1 again.

This was a great episode- it had a lot of nice moments, action, teamwork, character development. Whether or not you like the outcome of the choices the writers make doesnt have a bearing on the quality of the episode.

 

Bulkhead has really turned into a full-on unsympathetic character. He's acting like a baby. He's a wrecker for fuck's sake, why is he such a lump? He's never been grievously injured before? He's never had to sit out on a mission? All the dangerous stuff he used to do and this is the first time? Also I lol'd when he said Breakdown was his arch nemesis. Yeah, that really amounted to alot, din'nit?

"Study group" had me genuinely laugh. Nice save, kid. One of the few moments of genuine, non-overdone humour. That and Soundwave's little deception into the base were the only good parts of the episode. "I needed that" is still just as forced and unfunny as always.

But if that's the last of Silasdown, I'm pissed. Mostly because up until the end, I actually found myself enjoying him. He kills MECH, puts himself under Megatron's command and offers a potential game-changer. Then he's just dragegd away to be killed. All that build up, robbing us of a proper character arc for Bulkhead and making the Decepticon cast look even smaller than they already were, just so he shows up in Breakdown's body for one ep then is destroyed? What crap. That ending scene was just salt in the wound, trying to pass it off as dark or extreme doesn't change the fact that once again, the creators have taken a potentially interesting story developement and tossed it out. Then again, can't upset the status quo now, can we?

Though it's not like he'd do much anyway. I mean, does Dreadwing even still exist?

 

I'd say no, its not a great episode. As for Silas character, it really was out of character and the writers have control over the personalities and actions of the fictional beings on screen.

If something goes wrong with a character's personality, it's because they were written badly. Degrading a character is a detriment to that show.

As for resolving plot arcs, why not finish off this scavenger hunt they've been on. MECH and Silas could have been developed further and one that I see as one of the more unique contributions of Prime. Taking away something interesting and unique from the show is a detriment to that show.

And yes I'd say the outcomes and the choices made do have an effect on the quality of an episode since it effects the themes of the episode, anticipation for future episodes, character development and direction of the series. It also affects how people will percieve the character's actions within the episode.

Also how your dividing Prime's storylines into arcs and plots is vague and subjective, since one plot or storyline normally starts another.

 

The ending was pretty inevitable as soon as Silas said, "this is your final day on the job!"

 

In all my years of watching different Transformers series ...that is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen seen. That's gonna cause some nightmares.

The Silas/Breakdown thing ended way to earlier. Kind of hope we have not seen the last of him.

 

It's quite possible that was the mother's maiden name and the parents wanted it remembered.

Alternatively, they just needed some more syllables for his name to drive home the 'YOU ARE IN TROUBLE MISTER' line that sounded Hispanic.

 

All in all, this was a good episode. I wish MECH had a more coherent arc than a series of shocking swerves, but this episode by itself was decent. I especially found the ending to be damned creepy - Knockout just graduated magna cum laude from the University of Scary Shit.

My only complaint is that of all the advantages CyLAS could give the Decepticons in terms of intelligence and local experience - the whole reason why competent armies hire local guides in the first place - he instead gives them a big gun. Granted, it's a very useful advantage, given it's status as the ultimate high ground, but that wasn't the extent of CyLAS's potential contributions. Hell, the Bayverse Decepticons made better use of human collaborators in Dark of the Moon, and a lot of folks accuse them of being brainless monsters.

I hope that the 'Cons going after the human charges plotline that many of us were theorizing about back in Darkness Rising, when Soundwave first took that photo, comes to fruition. Given the Autobots' attachment to the humans and Optimus's rampage in One Shall Fall, I predict massive Bayformerism.

 

Oh wow. That was the best 22 minutes of my life. Now I can die peacefully.

The Study Group and Ratchet's "I NEEDED THAT!" line cracked me up.   That reminds me, I'm low on TP too.  

Other than that, great episode! Next up, Legacy. I believe the preview's already up on youtube.

 

nothing 'went wrong' with a character's personality. He was crazy enough go AWOL from the army and start his own hitech merc outfit. His psycotic scheme to mimic Optimus is what got him here in the first place.

furthermore,you have NO IDEA how being turned into a frankenrobot would affect his 'rational' state of mind, cause its never happened to you or anyone you know. The writer's have free reign. None of the characters have to match up with you, mine, or any other viewer's precise expectations and presumptions.

Just cause he acted all cool like a cucumber previously doesnt make him a rational, level-headed human. He is a nutjob, and always was a nutjob, and he wasnt ever doing anything rational or wise, he was just a really smart sociopath who wanted to have the best tech available, no matter the cost.

cause this episode was devoted to resolving the MECH plot arc, and the NEXT episode is going to deal with some fancy relics.

O and wtf is

Spoiler

with Megatron's arm?

????

yes, because works of fiction can only have ONE plot arc or theme running at a time.


have you ever read shakespeare? or a novel?



its not vague and subjective. THere have been however many episodes in the Prime run devoted to MECH and there nutjob shenanigans, bent on technological domination as they are. They had a plot arc - it is likely over now. I hope it is. It got freaky this episode. This was a pretty freaking dark episode for a kid's show. I they pushed it further it would likely just get maudlin and awkward.

bold for objectivity.

 

Well normally it goes [Name] [Middle Name] [Father's Last Name] [Mother's Maiden Name] so I guess it's just a case of the writers not knowing how having two last names works.  

 

Not to repeat a line that people use as a joke, but I've heard it both ways. Seriously. I've known it the way I've said it, and I've known it as the parents' names hyphenated together.

 

I liked this episode. I'm really glad they finally showed the Autobots and Decepticons acknowledging Breakdown's death. Though, the fact that Knockout thought he might still be online in the beginning after all that time was a little weird...

 

OMG. Knock Out!  
Siliasdown = ooh that's not going to end well!  
Bulk and Smokes working together = :3
Ratchet's ''I needed THAT!'' never gets old!  
Rest of the eps was ok in my book! Drama, Fowler and the kids worked well.
Bring on the next Ep!

 

Aside from the very title saying 'he made an out of character decision', I don't see going AWOL from the army as crazy. I consider it daring. His scheme to mimic Optimus Prime, I call creative.

Neither do you have NO IDEA on how it effects rational mind.

Either way I still state my view, expectations, presumptions etc.

So your applying your presumptions. I will apply mine, he was a logical and well prepared soldier.

You're distracting from the line of thought be talking about Megatron's arm. I'm not interested at this moment.

If this is rhetorical question then it's in bad taste. I have read many novels. And I still stand by what I said. Also a tv series isn't a clear match for a novel.

Calling the episode great is subjective. Even calling MECH nut jobs is subjective. The positives of the episode doesn't take away from the negatives I see.

 

Good episode... only con would be Cy.L.A.S. being a one shot deal. That and well, without Sylas, I guess MECH won't be heard from in some time... (Unless they're enslaved/converted with future experiments by Knock-Out.)

 

Probably one of the best episodes yet.