And you have officially lost my respect by mentioning Bay raping Transformers.

 

well they kinda did shoot first so optimus had no choice :L kinda like on the ship when optimus told them to practically stand-down or die...yeah they died

 

But they said they still don't kill miners. If that were true, they would've aimed for non-fatal spots like the legs. Instead they decapitate them with their ankles.

 

Now this one interests me, as I see it frequently.

I actually bothered to rewatch the mine scenes, and I really need to know...

Do you not remember that the "miners" (those who didn't have weapons they were actively firing) were using their heavy equipment as weapons?

Do you not understand that if I run you down with a piece of heavy equipment then I am in fact "armed" (hence the concept of vehicular homicide)? Would a demonstration really be necessary to change your mind (assuming, hypothetically, that you survived)?

Do you actually remember and understand these things and just post pure bullshit anyway?

Seriously, I want to know. Not because I'm taking sides in the "which version is better" debate, but have a problem with liars and "facts optional" kinds of people. So you see, if it's a memory problem (ADHD or the like) or an understanding problem (cognitive deficit of any sort) then it's not actually a lie and I have no problem with you!

Oh, I see. Things like driving a piece of heavy equipment at you DON'T count then.

I guess an unarmed guy who is still actively trying to kill you isn't a combatant to you. You'd be entertaining in all sorts of 3rd world places, just not on my squad.

Given your use of the word "hypocrisy," I'd avoid all ethics, philosophy, and any class that involves word problems when you hit college age. You may be at a disadvantage.

 

Scratch that. Dude, that is unwarranted. Regardless of taking sides in the Vehicon debate, which you very much did albeit denying it, flaming as you just did isn't necessary.

 

pfft you shoot a vehicon in the foot they die.

 

So true

 

They never said killing armed miners was okay, did they? No, they said they don't kill miners period. Again, there's these things called legs, aim for them if killing the miners is such a damned sin. I would be perfectly fine with them killing miners if they hadn't just SAID they don't kill them. If Optimus had said "We don't kill defenseless Decepticons." instead of "We don't kill miners." that would've been fine and there'd be nothing to bitch about.

 

I think he actually said don't kill defenseless cons before. But when optimus said don't kill miners was that when ratchet was torturing that miner?

 

Yes.

 

Guys for the love of mike STOP GOING OFF TOPIC!!!!

I don't want the thread to get closed because of this derailing! If you want to argue about a different topic do it somewhere else!

I'm sorry but this is starting to get nuts!

This is a thread about Arcee and I'm not sure I can make a third thread of her.

Anyway who do you think is a better nemesis for Arcee? Starscream or Airachnid?

 

Starscream because Airachnid's character sucks and it's cheap how she only exists to have girl-on-girl fights with Arcee.

 

Arachnid, she creeps the hell outta me.

 

We know my answer.

Starscream. Airachnid is a stupid piece of shitbitch who needs to die.

 

You've got your memory issues.

As Ratchet finishes torturing a miner, who was running away and actively run down BY Ratchet, he deploys his weapon as if to inflict a death blow...

"Ratchet, what are you doing?"

"Getting results."

"And breaking protocol. That was a Decepticon Miner, servant class, not Warrior Class."

"Oh, let me guess, I'm just a medic."

"Autobots do not inflict harm unless all other options have been exhausted. It is what separates us from the Decepticons."

That's what was actually said.

He didn't say that either.

Shooting for their legs... again, you'd be fun in 3rd world nations or on patrol in some ugly parts of a variety of ugly urban centers.

The only questions here are whether you know you are being a simpleton and whether you actually remember the scenes properly and are just lying. You are wrong on reason. You are wrong on facts. You are wrong from first to last. I'm guessing you are neither a simpleton nor do you have a memory deficit.

So, what's your major malfunction?

Point taken.

Hey, seekerblackout, if you want to continue this drubbing elsewhere, I'm game to start a new thread (not that it will take very long).

I'll check in tomorrow so let me know if you are up to it.

 

airachnid. all you airachind haters just hurt cause she killed breakdown c:< lol on topic though mostly because well..airachnid is more evil than starscream and arcee has a legitame reason to hate her more. airachnid is a character you love to hate so when arcee actually kills her you'd be happy but what if arcee killed starscream? would you be happy? nahh you'd bitch. airachnid is good as she is...

 

Guys remember to keep on topic...

Anyway both are equally as worthy of being her nemesis but Starscream isn't a bloodthirsty and cruel to a point of being Jason Vorhees and has some redeemable sides.

So I'm hoping that we can have Arcee and Starscream team up to stop thier hated nemesis which is Airachnid. It'll be instersting to see Arcee reluctantly team up with one of her partner's murderers to stop another one..

 

Gotta say Airachnid, I love Starscream and all, but Airachnid just feels like more of a nemesis for her, while Starscream is the ideal enemy for whoever doesn't have one at the time, even himself. True girl on girl fights are kind of...cliche, but Airachnid's design, voice and rivalry still make her likable imo and the better 'nemesis' of Arcee

 

Hey, I LOVE Airachnid. She's evil as hell. Not even Megatron can match her for sadism.

Great character. Having her holed up in suspended animation isn't at all satisfying... if it wasn't obvious that the writers were "saving her for later" for a more mature Arcee to deal with.

Airachnid exists to be Arcee's nemesis first and foremost, and her ultimate demise has to be at the hands of Arcee. I think that makes it "on topic" -- right?

 

thank..you..someone who likes airachnid c: but yeah I agree with all of this, and since it has to do with arcee it's on topic