Season 2 discussion

Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by MeGrimmy53, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. TFW10

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    It would be interesting if Shockwave would be introduced as an Autobat instead of a Decepticon.

    Since, all the Dinobots were used from the past continuities I would like to see a different species of dinosaurs.

    It would be interesting to see what Jack will use during his prom since June mentioned kids should be worried about proms.
     
  2. Matty

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    A female Dinobot? That is a really, really good idea. I would love to see that.
     
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    I don't want to see Shockwave as an Autobot: his depiction in Exodus made me think of Josef Mengele.
     
  4. kaijuguy19

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    I'm hoping in Season 2 it'll show how the Autobots will fare for a while without Prime. I can tell there'll be tension even conflict for a few episodes before they get their berrings together and go get Optimus back.

    I'm still guessing if either Arcee and Ratchet will lead Team Prime seeing that they are the two bots suited for the position. Or maybe another Autobot who's not from the team will lead instead like Jazz,Prowl,Grimlock,Ultra Magnus,etc.

    What I'm looking foward to is seeing Arcee finally overcoming her flaws and inner demons and come out the better for it. As much as her struggling with her emotions is intresting,she'll have to move on eventully,espically for the good of the team since Prime's absent. I'm also looking foward to seeing if the next time she clashes with Starscream he'll bring up her mistake from Partners.

    Some backstory on Soundwave would be VERY nice to see! I mean there's so much about him that's intresting that a backstory or an episode centered on him will be a treat!:D  Also hoping if he'll finally speak as well.

    There's a lot of evidence of the Dinobots and Shockwave showing up so if it's true I'll be so happy!:D  Having Barricade on the show too won't hurt a bit!:D 

    So yeah this is basiclly what I want to see in Season 2 and if some of them do happen I'm going to be so happy!:D 
     
  5. TFW10

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    It would be interesting to see if Arcee would "lay down her life for Optimus" as she said she would during the episode when Optimus was infected with the virus.
     
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    Well if she almost dies from saving Optimus that's always a cool idea!:)  But it's not a good idea to really kill her because nothing good will come out of killing her off!

    I know I've said this a couple times and I should stop now but you get the idea.
     
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    Why would you make the Dinobots dinosaurs? It's impossible to hide when you stick out worse than a sore thumb. I'm not against the Dinobots being in Prime, but I am against them turning into dinosaurs when it has been established by both the Autobots and Decepticons the importance to stay hidden.

    The writers hinted at the Dinobots coming in at some point (was it season 2?), but I wonder how they intend to accomplish this myself, seeing how they already set the stage for Cybertronians to take the form of things in use on the world today.

    I like the idea of a female Dinobot;) , but why must she be the smallest one. I wouldn't mind seeing bigger female characters with less female aesthetics, like Strika. I'm getting a little tired of the super model body type characters female Cybertronians of late. Strika was an awesome addition that needs to return. Why not have Sludge be the female? The name might sound a little harsh, but is it necessary for the name to sound dainty?
     
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    Well maybe the Dinobots don't have to have their alt modes be dinosaurs. For instence you can probably have them take ordinary earth alt modes but than have their robot mades look like reptillain humanoids with dinosaurien features and aspects. Think like Godzilla and the Kaiju.

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    So while they still have dinosaurien features going on they still follow TFP's rule of keeping the robot in disguse element to a high degree without resorting to generic robot modes.
     
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    What's the point of Dinobots if they're not dinosaurs? That's literally the entire point of them; to have robot dinosaurs. Hell, they're even dinosaurs on Cybertron in FOC. Besides, who's to say the Autobots will still be hiding in S3? They might be public knowledge at that point, rendering the "Dinobots ruin the disguise" argument moot.
     
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    Ahem.

    -Prepares for epic meltdown-

    ......Is it me or am I the only one here that is wondering.....WHERE THE HECK SCREAMER WENT?! Thus far I have only seen people in this thread be all Dino crazed. My lord, I am sick of hearing or seeing the word Dinobot. -Throws a raging fit-

    Poor Starscream just like.....flew and disappeared into the dark abyss of.....dark abyss never to be seen or heard from again. Its ok Starscream, SOMEONE cares about you. That big meanie Megs beat on you and abused you then you got all tangled up in Autobot wing clip things and broke them off now...your M.I.A. (Missing in Action)

    Maybe I should sing the where'd you go song. -thinks- Naw.

    Seriously though, Where could he have gone? :O
     
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    ^^ Geez Lady Autocon calm down!:lol  Not everyone here talks about Dinobots! No one here knows where Starscream is but he'll be back more powerful than ever it seems! He's not gone forever!

    To think I go crazy about my likeing for Arcee.....:lol 
     
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    I understand the point of Dinobots being Dinosaurs, but that's also the reason why Hasbro didn't want them to be part of Transformers for the time being. Dinosaurs, apparently, aren't cool anymore and they aren't easy to hid, seeing how they are all dead. Walking dinosaurs would surely cause more harm than good—imagine the fear, soiled paints and heart attacks they'll cause just from walking through some random neighborhood. The argument isn't moot, but as said earlier, the writers did say that they were working on writing the Dinobots in in some form.

    With all the things that went down shortly after Starscream left the Decepticons (and Autobots), you would have still wished for him to be part of the story with his own arc unfolding with Dark Energon and Unicron? I like it just the way it went down myself.

    Clearly, Starscream was left out to focus on him in season two, giving him top billing, if you will. Besides, why would you doom him to a short story arc when he could have many more episodes in season 2, which is looking more likely to be the case?

    Starscream will be back and back in a big way. I foresee him being throwing a wrench into Megatron’s plan along with unintentionally/intentionally helping Orion return to Optimus, but not before making his mark with Bruticus or an army of his own.
     
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    for me i think dinobots should come only in season 3 or 4, as for now, ironhide, jazz those main characters should be coming, and wheeljack should be back.. my small opinion~
     
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    I don't think it would be too hard for the dinobots to hide out the locations provided in TF Prime.

    For one thing, a lot of the times they're shown in a desert. Hence, there's little to no people in many of the scenes shown. If anything, Prime's location and venues are ideal for the dinobots.

    And even if there's the potential of them being spotted, they can easily space bridge away.

    If anything, the dinobots uniqueness and inability to blend into their surroundings would provide interesting interactions, comedic scenes, twists and even conflicts that can be added into the series.

    If they find their way back to earth, I would be interested in how they'd see the planet from which part of them comes from. Would their love for Cybertron become love for the planet earth.(eventhough its kind of Unicron)

    And I don't mind if they'd appear in season 2. I think it would actually be great if they did. Season 1 went a bit slow, and I think there's a danger to that. For one, there's no telling how long Prime would last. For all we know, TF Prime is already standing on the edge of a cliff where this season could make or break its chances for a season 3. So I think they should aleady pull out all the stops to attract as much interest as possible.

    -The could introduce characters such as the dinobots.
    -improve animation/action
    -make the episodes for suspenseful and epic
    -They can add something new
     
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    This is for you, you can read the full story here.

     
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    What about it? I already read that a long time ago. My opinion still stands, I still think the desert would be an ideal location for dinobots to hide.

    Besides, the way I see it transforming isn't only about hiding from plain sight, its about gaining the advantage of the alternate form.

    For those that transform into cars they gain the advantage of speed etc. (In WFC I've even seen players ram their enemies with their vehicle mode)

    For the dinobots, they gain the added ferocity, power etc. of robotic space dinosaurs.(Based on the interviews, Grimlock is far more powerful in his dinosaur mode than in his robot mode)

    Also the reason for their existence is already explained in FOC, they're the result of Shockwave's experiments to try to add aspects of ancient earth animals onto Cybertronians. Their mutated part dinosaur forms aren't their choices, it's part of who they are. And that's why I'd be interested in how they would cope on modern day earth.

    The dinobots could also serve as a reminder of how early earth and cybertron have already interacted in the past and that both worlds have already had a profound effect on each other.

    http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/8...ybertron-exclusive-interview-planetary-reboot
     
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    Well, if you re-read it you’d see why the Dinobots aren’t in Prime now and why they won’t be for some time or ever. The show’s chief writer doesn’t think they have a place in Transformers: Prime (at least for the time being).

    It has already been established by Matt Tieger that these shows are not the same. The Prime team is doing its thing and HMS is doing theirs. The only thing they share is that they both drew from Hasbro’s bible, which (apparently) High Moon Studios played a huge role in; however, all writers are free to do as these please as seen with Alex Irvine’s books, HMS and Transformers: Prime; they all have discrepancies and similarities so of which are small and large.

    In the end, our opinions matter little. It is up to those behind the story, and for the time being they see no reason to include them into the story as Dinosaurs are not relevant in this day and age, just stating the facts:/
     
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    One game creator says something, Hasbro says something else. The writers state vague stuff. Depending on who's word one follows they can all be percieved as part of the aligned continuity. And that means the dinobots could already exist.

    I know that the writers may have apprehensions about having the dinobots in Prime, but my humble opinion still stands, I think the dinobots would fit well in Prime. Just stating my opinion. And I think that's part of why there is a forum.


    Also I think my opinion has a few valid points to support it, which is in my previous post.
     
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    I’m not saying your point/opinion is invalid, just pointing out why there are no Dinobots. Given the story the writers put forth, I agree with Robert Orci *shrugs* He didn’t say that he was against having the Dinobots, just that they don’t fit in his story now.

    Just curious, but why would you cast doubt on the words of Matt Tieger? Even Alex said some of the things he wrote about in his books may show up in the second season of Prime, suggesting that Prime is its own show, not something following his work. It isn’t just one writer saying they’re different stories, but all parties writing stories for Hasbro.
     
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    -So your saying that you meant that they weren't there last season is because of Robert Orci's opinion? I think that's a given unless there are other reasons such as budget etc. Or are you saying that that's the reason why they aren't in this next season? But, how are you sure when it hasn't been shown? And even if it they aren't, I'm still okay with saying that they should have. It's just my opinion on the matter.

    What do you mean that he's not against having the dinobots but he feels they don't fit in the show? Isn't that a bit contradictory? I never stated that he hates the dinobots only that I do not subscribe to to his opinion. I do think the dinobots can be made to fit the show.


    -They are the best examples of Cybertronians that can feel isolated and out of place on modern earth, hence increasing the drama
    -The dinobots do have a reason for being dinosaurs(added/augmented abilities from their dinosaur forms, Shockwaves (painful?) experiments, they have no choice since its part of who they are)
    -The dinobots show the interaction between Cybertron and ancient earth. Or shockwave's tampering on earth.

    And others as well.

    I also understand that you have a different opinion from mine. I've noticed that in your previous posts. So we'll just have to disagree regarding this.


    Are you saying that the writers and/or Hasbro have directly stated that Prime, FOC, WFC are not part of the aligned continuity? Or that the aligned continuity doesn't exist? If so, can you give the interview where they say that. Because I remember quite the opposite.

    Aligned continuity family - Transformers Wiki

    And in my 'squint test' of FOC, the dinobots would be a stand out. Also, the game designers did work with Hasbro on the matter and I see no reason why Hasbro wouldn't update their 'bible'. And it is a bible that would have to be used by even different creators.