A quick glance at the rest of that wanna-be news site's content revealed it to be a pretty heavily Leftarded place. Their writers (and probably their readers, too) spend all day, every day whining about perceived inequalities in race, class, gender, etc. You're not going to get a favorable film review out of them unless the film in question were something like Thelma and Louise or The Grapes of Wrath...

 

First of all: Before pinkish leftist liberalist I was, Transformers fanboy I was. Sexism, racism, nationalism, militarism and consumerism are the isms I naturally enjoy.

Second of all: Go watch the new Thundercat cartoon

Third of all: The TFW2005 rule concerning politics is highly political in itself therefore a contradiction in terms.

Fourth of all: You are clearly not a pinkish leftist liberal like Pinkie Pie little old me, you wouldn’t scapegoat me for trolling. You would simply recognize I gave my honest opinion in the least offending way. If my opinion wasn’t stated clearly you would have asked me to elaborate. Furthermore you would have questioned others about there unfounded criticisms and their hollow rhetoric’s. And you would know name calling is not the answer.

Fifth of all: Falsely equating my opinion with the TF fandom is very lowly of you. I simply stated the reaction of the Fandom on the article validated many of its main points.

Sixth of all: Trolls are no Witches and this isn’t a witch hunt this is merely a discussion to assess the wider meaning of Bayformers, it’s place in cultural history and it’s contemporary value. Meaning: What does Bayformers say about early 20th century male & female sexual/racial identity, politics, consumerism, production, labor and capital?

Seventh of all: I stand for my crap and I believe you just fell into the abysmal pit of self-delusion.

 

Ha ha, I love how some of you are accusing this writer of being a 'troll'

Seriously, as a victim of this term once myself, you guys REALLY need to brush up on your application of it. Or better still, learn to accept contrarian points of view.

I don't particularly agree with the article either, but I still find it interesting and ultimately respect its place in mainstream criticism.

Some of you need to grow up instead of mindlessly banding around the word 'troll' when you counter a view point which doesn't agree with your own.

Oh wait, I'm probably a 'troll' again myself now aren't I?

*rolls eyes*

 

I saw none of which this author of said article perceived. If anything it seems as a lame attempt to grasp at the media attention the twins had in Rotf. But to each his own. I could understand if the dreads had a rasta dialect or accent but they didn't. Even the twins were safe on this point, to me they spoke like the kids of today. Not ghetto or black but how every teen speaks both on and off line. But I as a black man was not offended because I do not speak that way and I tend to have a better perception as to think a summer blockbuster movie that will be released worldwide is being blatantly racist.

To me anyone seeing more than a high budget popcorn flick has some personal social caste issue within themselves that really needs to be addressed in a more constructive way other that flaming a movie about intergalatic robots fighting and their designs.

 

well i was curious as to how this was going to read but got to say this is not the same as saying the twins were racist. This is someone really reaching for something to complain about.

I think the major hole in the argument for him is the dreads are never depicted poorly they are only ineffective and are killed by ironhide who also happens to be the same color. I dont think having dreads neccesarily makes them even remotely racist as the twins were with their borderline caricature faces.

As for the long war propaganda commercial that part is correct michael bay doesnt even hide that he gets the military involved and doing so there are certain things he needs to plug into the movie.

All in all though that article should not be considered in the same vein as the ones from ROTF which were mostly correct. ROTF was horrible but DOTM was good.

 

Wow after reading this I want my 30 minutes of my life back.....

 

I'm a little uncomfortable with the Team America: World Police approach that the films used.

It just feels like films such as Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers or The Hurt Locker are more respectful because they show the sacrifice that ordinary people endured. It's the down and dirty suffering that soldiers faced, all the parts of war that aren't pretty. Plus live or die has nothing to do if you were a good person or a bad person.

In the Transformers films they have all the trapping of being soldiers, but they end up feeling more like action heroes than real soldiers. They feel more like a Bruce Willis or Arnold Schwarzenegger character than the guys in Afghanistan.

 

Despite being Puerto Rican, I can't say that the Latin meltdown scene really bothered me. I suppose that I've gotten used to seeing the very same Latin stereotype in film and television. It's pretty sad, but whatever. I don't think Michael Bay himself is a racist, but I believe that he's misguided and oblivious to some of the questionable things he puts into his films

 

It's sadly a thing you can't escape. Stereotyping is the now media's way of relating to an audience.   The one thing I was bothered by mostly in the trilogy was Anthony Anderson. The whole get off my grandmama carpet part bothered because it sent a message that black people have a problem with police. Bullplop.

 

I have to ask... wtf is this latin meltdown scene you guys keep talking about? I know that sounds like a stupid question, but I honestly cannot remember one damned bit of it. Waddafaq?

 

I think that's it in a nutshell.

He's far from outwardly racist. He's just a little bit ignorant. Actually, I'd argue if anything the offense caused comes worse off on Bay. It just highlights how ignorant and sexist he is.

But are his films insinuating racial prejudice? I'm not so sure. I think people are smarter than that!

 

Sam's first day on the job. His superior is having it out with this Latin girl prior to explaining him the job requirements.

 

Wilder's Wonka had incredible charisma, but there's definitely something a bit off about the guy that was made a lot more obvious in the remake. Some of the great dictators of history probably also had magnetic personalities.

The Bob Marley bit, I just glossed over that, I suppose it could be argued that dreadlocks are symbolically ethnic, but that wasn't the impression I got watching the movie. The raghead comment I thought was pretty interesting. It's not something that would've occurred to me at all, but clearly it was included because they felt it added to the evil look they were going for. And why is that. I think it does add a certain element of foreignness to the character. But again I wouldn't dwell too much on these points.

The guy was called a lot worse than Troll. It's just the reactionary narrow-mindedness of some around here. There's a certain hardcore element of TF movie fans that heavily resent anyone applying any kind of analysis or interpretation to the movies.

Personally, whether I agree with it or not, I find this sort of thing often adds interest to the film. Remember Tarantino's take on Top Gun.

‪Quentin Tarantino taking on Top Gun‬‏ - YouTube

As am I, although I found DOTM not as bad in this respect as ROTF.

 

In instances like this, I believe in the phrase, "Mind Over Matter".

Simply put, those who mind (over silly little things) don't matter, while those who matter (which that writer obviously isn't) won't mind.

 

um i agree with you here he is obviesly lacking in anouther department besides the brains, trying to over compensate. The fact is this movie is not racist. yes the battle ravage that had dreads was a little over the top trying to look evil. but i didnt think that red 7 (from final fantasy) was black when i saw him and his long main with some dreads in it!!

 

OH! Okay, I know what you're talking about now.

It was such an unimportant scene that it never even phased me.

 

This person obviously takes movies waaaaaaaaaay to serious.

 

Political correctness is going fucking mad and affords idiots like this their moment in the spotlight.
Megatron has a cowl because half his face is missing.
The Dreads are clearly inspired by the Predator.
Optimus Prime was red, white and blue from 1984. Catch up mate, he's always symbolised the USA.
Hot women are hot women, and that scene could've been done with any ethnicity and not lost the point that we got to see a hot woman and an 'insert sexually charged quip here' for a couple of seconds. Big fucking deal.

 

I completely agree. I wish more people on here thought like you did!