Fixed for accuracy.

 

I think you've slightly missed the point.

The point being you can't 'remove killing from the equation'. Because killing is the very problem I have with this incarnation of Optimus.

Thanks, but I can't see this argument going any further with you lol.

 

Ok This is a Long One Bear with Me. 

I guess People Forget what Megatron has Done:

He Started the war which lead to cybertron being a dead planet,
which then lead to the near extinction of their race,
so when people say he was just trying to save
his planet i think they forget that he is the one
who killed it.

TF1: He Killed the people in the cryo chamber,
Probably squashed some people in Mission City,
Killed Jazz and Tried to capture the Cube to harvest
its energy to turn earth technology into a new army to take over
the universe and Tried to Kill Optimus.

TF2: Killed Optimus, Helped free the Fallen, Killed Sam,
Killed Countless Soldiers,
Tried to Harvest our sun which would lead to our destruction.

TF3:Megatron Ordered Lazerbeak to dispose of Humans.
Masterminded "Sentinel's Plan" which was really all Megatron's idea,
which Sentinel was only used as a pawn for Megatron to conquer the universe.
Everything Sentinel did was instigated by Megatron,
so I count the results of Sentinels actions as Megatrons.
He wanted To enslave Our World
He was confident That his plan was Secured
It was Only when Carly told him That he would
be nothing more then sentinels foot stool
that Megatron Realized His Rule was in danger
which he then proceeded To resuecure his rule
(by making sure everybody knew he had to be in charge)
Starting with ripping apart Sentinel with his Bear Hands to
The Point that Sentinel was no Longer A threat and near death.
He then turn to Optimus (A Defeated foe in his Eyes) With His Shot Gun Still in his hand,
Proceeded to taunt Optimus to make A truce
Because He would be Noone Without him.
Optimus Knowing All He has Done knew He Must Be Stopped No Matter the Cost

OK I'm Done  

 

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‪Touch by Stan Bush from the Transformers The Movie‬‏ - YouTube

Did this twice. Problem?

 

I didn't have a problem with Optimus Prime killing. It was the execution style killings of guys that had already been disabled that seemed a bit out of character to me--so I didn't have a problem with how he killed Megatron, but rather with how he killed Sentinel and Demolishor, especially with Sentinel who seemed to be showing remorse.

However, when I saw the cartoon movie from '86 again I did notice that he was going to execute Megatron the same way. Megatron is disarmed and down on the ground. Kup yells out to Prime to finish him off. Prime slowly walks over to his gun, picks it up, and slowly walks over to Megatron. Megatron begs for mercy and Prime criticizes him for it and aims his gun. Then Hot Rod rushes in and Optimus Prime tells him to get away (so he can kill Megatron).

Megatron of course ends up killing Prime, but Prime was about to kill him execution style, just like in the movie-verse.

 

You can't really compare them though because Megatron sees a gun and calls out mercy to buy himself time. Sentinel may have being doing the same thing, but it's really hard to tell.

 

I shall just point out that Megatron's intentions where never to destroy Cybertron. To stop Megatron from controlling the Allspark the Autobots launched it into space. While I am not saying Megatron was a good guy and I know that it was because of him the Bots did it, it was the Bots not the Cons that killed Cybertron.

 

I actually didn't think Sentinel Was very Remorseful.
at the end, He was still trying to get
Optimus to see That he was right to want to Enslave us and Rebuild their planet.
And in order to Save their race they must join with the Very ones
who nearly drove them to extinction.
It's only when he realizes that His plan has Failed
and he has also Failed to convince Optimus
(to betray everything he believes, and the freedom of earth)
that he says "NO OPTIMUS".
Optimus can't afford
to Lose more Autobots and more innocent Lives

But Everyone is Entitled to their Own opinion  

 

Good point

 

haahaa

 

When it escalates a war that could possibly lead to another Detroit. If it is a war of ideology, Megatron is not the only one who shares that ideology; he is one of many. In killing off the person instead of addressing the ideology, you create 10 new megatrons, each one seriously pissed that their leader was shot dead as he was trying to make peace. There's war, and then there's war crimes. This was a war crime. With several Decepticons still on earth and without a means to rebuild their home or leave the planet, that's thousands of future dead civilians who would be alive if Prime spared Megatron and tried to give him what he wanted without endangering the humans. Megatron didn't care about the genocide of the humans. That was never his goal. His goal was to rule Cybertron. Prime's goal was to live on Earth and protect it. They both could have had what they wanted. Megatron had absolutely no motivation to wipe out humanity if he could live on a rebuilt Cybertron. That's not the character who was presented in the Bay films. Maybe that's who he was in the cartoons, but this Megatron only cared about Cybertron. He hated living on earth.

 

Thing is, though, how popular a leader was Megatron?

How many of his troops truly believed in his ideology? And how many signed on with him just so they could find an outlet for their destructive, homicidal tendencies and take a golden opportunity to go around beating people up?

 

:O so... let me get this right... we should be merciful to genociders? I'm pretty sure Hitler, Obama and Saddam would have loved that!

so... yeah, Prime can't allow himself to make more mistakes about trusting Megatron. Wasn't it this that started the whole war? Optimus trusted Megatron in co-ruling Cybertron together. BIG mistake he wasn't going to commit again.

 

Megatron and Sentinel Prime were ready to enslave humanity to rebuild Cybertron—they were going to turn Earth into Cybertron, as they ruined their planet eons ago.

Even if they could have rebuilt Cybertron, they would have needed resources and those resources would have most likely been taken from Earth. Megatron was ready to take our sun in the name of Cybertron in the second movie, I’m sure he wouldn’t have had any issues doing so with our resources either.

EDIT:

Obama? As in President Obama?

According to the movie, Optimus became leader of the Autobots after Sentinel Prime, which was after the war had started, no?

I'd like to know why Prime didn't take the two into custody to stand trial. Yeah, I get the Cybertron's a dead world with mainly loyal Decepticons on it, but with Megatron gone would they have done anything? Killing him seemed to end the war outright; I see no reason to think the war couldn't have ended the same with his and Sentinel's arrest.

 

Honestly...this may sound a bit harsh, but what kind of stupid ending would end with Megatron, the ultimate evil in the Autobots' world, realizing his "sins" and exiling HIMSELF? Personally I think the ending was really epic, but it would have been better if Megatron would have fought back or pulled a G1 movie stunt where he begs for mercy(or a "truce") and proceeds to grab his gun and prepare to shoot Optimus. In closing, I would like to say the song goes, "Autobots wage their battle to DESTROY the EVIL forces of the DECEPTicons."

 

1.Hitler killed himself before the Allies reached him.
2.I think you mean OSAMA, not Obama. He was killed because he was in an active firefight while holding a hostage.
3. Saddam Hussein was caught and had a trial. One where they decided he should be hanged.

Just saying.

 

Because you have not explained how killing a genocidal maniac is the same as killing an innocent being who did no wrong.

 

But that is what happened, the truce part anyway. Seconds after he took down Sentinel Prime he starting laying down what was going to happen from that point forward. He was ready to end the war. From his point of view, he had won. And I consider the line “What would you be without me,” a line of mercy. “Let’s find out,” was Optimus Prime’s way of saying F you, Megatron.

 

The line really reminds me of the sort of relationship they share, mainly of hate - basically a Batman/Joker type relationship, if you know what I mean. What would Optimus be without Megatron? He would be the leader of either a) rebuilding Cybertron WITHOUT the deceit of the Decepticons or b)the leader of the Autobots that simply protected the humans on Earth - Im leaning towards the second one. In other words, if there was no Megatron, Optimus wouldnt really be a fighter - just like if there was no Joker for Batman to repeatedly chase down and put in jail, there would be no Batman, since Joker is his greatest enemy(yes, he has other enemies, but you know what I mean.)

 

I'm not saying the kill wasn't justified, but ... the other option might have been interesting.

Even the Good Guys can sometimes learn from a repenting former Enemy.