Changes you'd make to the movie.

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  1. RzaSharp

    RzaSharp Well-Known Member

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    This wouldve been Tight as hell!!!
     
  2. SKowl

    SKowl Rubber Golem

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    Cut the fat of the first 2 hours - if you want to have 45 minutes of non-stop action at the end, make sure I'm not half asleep by the time you get to it.

    How about making Optimus Prime more of a hero, and less of a blood-thirsty maniac who executes people?

    How making Soundwave look more like... I dunno, SOUNDWAVE?

    While you're at it, give Shockwave some screentime instead of just killing him off after 45 seconds of doing absolutely nothing.

    Maybe think of giving the movie an actual ending, and not just cuttign suddenly because you ran out of money.
     
  3. vslayerntx

    vslayerntx Well-Known Member

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    biggest one...arcee would be in it......

    sentinel would have killed the twins like he did in the comic book.....

    give a fight scene to Q

    give dino a known tf name....like hot shot, mirage or cliffjumper

    give shockwave more to do and have him interact with megs and sentinel

    have prime be able to take out sentinel by himself without megs help (made him look all waek that he needed megs to help him)

    scale back sam's story waaaaaay back....too much time dealing with his high strung drama
     
  4. SKowl

    SKowl Rubber Golem

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    Another one...

    I would put more emphasis on the "Robots IN DISGUISE" angle, which is kind of the linchpin of the franchise, don't you think?

    I mean seriously... in DOTM, the TFs feel more like monsters from War of the Worlds than actual Transformers... that, y'know... TRANSFORM.
     
  5. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    All the changes I would make to the movie: (It's long)

    - A longer sequence of the Cybertron battles, Like show some close ups of Decepticons and Autobots actually fighting each other and then show the spaceship escaping.

    - In the Russian (Can't spell the city name) scene instead of it just being Prime, Ratchet and the NEST team also have the surviving Arcee sisters there, whom are killed by Shockwave. (Ends one plot-hole)

    - Sam already has a job (get rid of the pointless crap) and all the nervous scenes are just about him making the right impression on the first day.

    - With the scene in the Nest HQ, when Optimus is pissed, instead of him just being angry at the Ark engine part, also have him angry that he lost two men, well... women Autobots with something they should have known about. Then have Buzz Aldrin explain everthing.

    - In the African scene, also have Barricade present on behave of Shockwave and give him and Soundwave more lines. Have Barricade say something like "Shockwave's in position and ready for the attack, but he wants me to make sure you haven't forgotten what he wants in exchange" and then have Megatron confirm thats it's Barricade with the reply "I haven't forgotten Barricade! He can have Earth as long as I rule Cybertron!" or something like that.

    - With the highway scene, instead of there being three Dreads, have four Dreads chasing them down with one killed by Dino, one killed by Sideswipe and the other two killed by Ironhide.

    - When Ironhide is killed have all the character show some sort of emotion and mention his death.

    - Cut the parents sex talk with sam, or shorten it.

    - When Epps is gathering his NEST buddies have him also meet up with Jolt, Skids and Mudflap. Have him say something like "When they heard Autobots were being exiled they went into hiding, Sure there not the best but there all we got."

    - Here's what I would change in the Chicago battle:
    . Have Shockwave do more, like kill Jolt & Dino
    . Show Prime putting on the flight gear.
    . Cut prime getting tangled up.
    . Have the Wreckers do a lot more
    . Show the Autobots getting captured
    . Have Barricade kill Que, and Soundwave kill Mudflap
    . After the distraction, have a short battle between Bumble Bee and Shockwave, where it looks like Shockwave was going to win until Skids shoots/ distracts Soundwave, then Bumble Bee does his uppercut cannon.
    . A longer battle with Shockwave and Barricade vs NEST and all the Autobots with Barricade killing Leadfoot, Ratchet killing Barricade, Shockwave killing the remaining Wreckers and Optimus killing Shockwave.
    . A longer battle with Sentinel, Megs and Optimus

    A much better Optimus Prime speech at the end.
     
  6. Dinobot747

    Dinobot747 Chopperface

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    Put in the Megatron-elephant encounter. Also, the playground sequence.
     
  7. springerbee

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    well, if I had a $195m budget and wanted my movie to be 70%-80% robot-centric, I wouldn't be able to make my movie 2 1/2 hours long, therefore, I'd have to reduce the running time and not waste money to film a lot of human scenes to keep it in budget. By adding longer robot fights to the now 40 minute final battle sequence, I'll leave out a lot of human scenes.
     
  8. jjk1120

    jjk1120 Decepticon Saboteur

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    The number one thing I would have changed in the movie would have been to cut/shorten the tower scene. I've seen the movie 3 times (loved it!), but that scene is way to long, drawn out, and does very little to move the film along. I almost feel like we pause the story to go up and down this collapsing tower, and nothing get accomplished with it.

    I agree with so many of you about what could have been different. Usually your #1 complaint is more Transformer interaction. This could have been accomplished by getting rid of the tower scene. Sure, I agree that several other scenes could have been removed/shortened (Sam's parents, Sam's boss being tickled by Bumblebee, the Russian bar scene) but that tower eats up so much time!

    I would have liked to see:
    -More Soundwave
    -An actual ending (this is the last movie in your franchise. End it properly)
    -Like many others have said, have Sentinal kill the Twins, Arcee, and Jolt at NEST headquarters. There are too many unexplained Transformer disappearances in the 3 movies
    -Have Shockwave and Megatron do something. I understand Megatron being weak and damaged from the last movie, but he really had just a few quick scenes
     
  9. Motormasterador

    Motormasterador Mortal kombat addicted

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    -Funeral to ironhide
    -more screen time to shockwave
    -Wheelie and brains killing laserbeak
    -Ironhide VS Shockwave battle
    -Ironhide dies in battle
    -Q survives
    -AND wreckers in action hell yeah
    -Barricade vs Bumblebee scene
    -Megatron and decepticons left the earth
    -Sentinel dies with a !BOOM HEADSHOT!
     
  10. VaderPrime1

    VaderPrime1 Prepare for termination!

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    Longer ending and less Jerry Wang.
     
  11. Bountyan

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    Make OP vs Megs longer. That's the only thing I can think of right now.
     
  12. UnicronFTW

    UnicronFTW Don't blink.

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    Have better closure for Wheelie and Brains, see the Wreckers do a bit more, give Dino and Que their real names, exchange the novels ending with the existing one in the finished film. That's really it, that I can think of right off the bat.
    Edit:
    Oh yeah, give a little more respect and recogniton to the late Ironhide.
     
  13. JayEm

    JayEm マキシマルだよ

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    I would have had Megatron kill Starscream for getting in his way...Starscream can only be killed by two bots in my opinion: Megatron and Optimus...not some human insect.

    Also would have had Sentinel join back up w/ Optimus to help kill Shockwave (would have given him a bigger part)...the after he is down Sentinel begins to apologize and regret his decisions...Megatron fatally wounds him...then Optimus and Megatron have their last big throw-down...Megatron dies and Optimus rushes to Sentinel's side and Sentinel tells him that he is glad he chose Optimus to lead the Autobots because he wouldnt have made his mistake...Sentinel dies.

    thats just me...
     
  14. fatesmagic

    fatesmagic Tengen Toppa Megatron

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    They were prtty well disguised. WheeljaQ was disguised as the Iranian Prime Ministers car, Soundwave was spying as Carlys car, Lazerbeak was disguised all over the fucking place.

    Now, I liked the movie as it was. LOVED it, really. But to be even better than my personal best, here's a thing or two I would do;

    * A little more mentions of Mikaela in the begining.

    * Have another Autobot occompony Optimus and NEST to Chernobyl, preferably WheeljaQ

    * Maybe an extra line or 2 for Dino.

    * The Wreckers did do quiet a bit mor than I expected, but not quiet enough. -coughTopspinLinescough-

    * Twins try to fight Sentinel, lose misirebly. (i cant spell.)

    * Optimus finds Ironhides body, angrily swears revenge.

    * Montage of Autobots helping NEST around the world.

    * WheeljaQ actually using his sniper rifle in Chicago.

    * Show how the Autobots were captured.

    * Few more original dron 'Cons fighting in Chicago

    * Shockwave has only 1 more line to Optimus in Chicago death-fight.

    * Wreckers totally kick Bonecrusher and Blackout's asses.

    * I agree with JayEm's ending. Sentinal helps Optimus fight Shockwave, Sentinal is wounded by Megatron, Optimus pwns Megs, Optimus sits helplessly as Sentinal dies, showing pride in OP for the leader he became. OP turns back to the hurt Megatron, and brutally finishes him after a good long fight.

    * One more line a the end "We are here. We... are home
     
  15. thygriever

    thygriever Optimus Prime

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    At the moment the 2 biggest changes for me would be the final battle with megatron definitely should be at least a couple minutes longer (with the same result of death at the end)

    The 2nd change is just my personal preference but I'm tired of them trying to force the "no-facemask" Prime in the movies. They overdid it in the 3rd movie. I've accepted the mouth but it's completely RIDICULOUS that he removes it in the middle of the final battle just to speak one line then put it back on. It's dumb.. it's like they want to remove the facemask but they're trying to be subtle.
     
  16. Solrac333

    Solrac333 G1 got it right!

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    No Optimus hanging on wires. That looked silly.
     
  17. madman1366

    madman1366 "The Bad Guy"

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    My changes would have been universal across all the movies. Simply put, simplify and streamline the story better. I had no problems picking up what needed to be but some people just don't think that fast and much of it escapes them.

    Trying to spend so much time on Sam/Mikaela, Sam/Carly characters left even less time for the 10 other main "need to know" humans in the story and what they all were up to and why. It all comes and goes so fast.

    Movies 2 and 3 made it more difficult seeing they were trying to pack so much action in. They had to rush the story simply because it was too long to work it all out in the shortest possible time and be specific enough with things so that people could follow better.

    Keep in mind, this was Bay's first REAL attempt at something like this. He did a sequel before but nothing like this. I just don't think he set himself up well enough in the beginning with a clear story to run through the next films. Not to mention, there were no guarantees of 3 movies at the beginning. He had to make each film so that if it tanked, there was no hanging connections to another movie that may never come.

    Connecting the 3 movies with the story and understanding it all is possible. There are enough pieces there to put it all together, it just wasn't in the conventional way it would likely have been had they written the story for 3 movies right from the get-go.

    The action and all that is sound. All they need next time is to have a well written story that is a bit more simple to follow and isn't chronologically screwed. Better transitions from scene to scene wouldn't hurt either.

    Still though, I'm more than satisfied. This is the end to the first part of a long road for Transformers films. Hopefully in time we only see them get better and better.
     
  18. Cyberwolf1980

    Cyberwolf1980 Deceptus Templar C-Dub TFW2005 Supporter

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    Let's see...

    Twins ackowledged or killed off with Sentinel's betrayal.

    Megatron ackowledge in Africa his exhaustion of the war, and questioning whether or not what's been done was right, but assuring himself of his love for his homeworld and his desire to save it from it's fate.

    Megatron in seclusion leading the cons from afar but with Shockwave seeing him as illogical and emotionally unfit to lead, taking charge after Sentinel's betrayal with Megatrons retreat while the cons turn on him.

    Dino and Que remain Mirage and Wheeljack.

    Have Optimus back at base looking at a rust stain on the ground where Ironhide was killed contemplating his death.

    Wheeljack fight back before his death.

    Have Barricade show up in Chicago with Soundwave asking him where he's been, Barricade responding, "Held up in traffic!" acknowledging his disappearance at the end of the first movie.

    Bee shoot out Soundwaves vocal processors with Soundwave swearing revenge with a vocoder effect before Bee finally kills him.

    Laserbeak be a PART of Soundwave.

    Cyberton return to where it belongs, not imploding in on itself.

    Megatron learning Shockwave discovered Megatron's emotional scarring after RotF from Starscream. Megatron hunts him down and discovered he was plotting to kill Shockwave after the war with the Autobots was over. Megatron kills him and moves on to deal with Shockwave.

    Optimus deals with Sentinel and Shockwave by himself getting his ass handed to him most of the battle.

    Megatron finally shows up and saves Optimus from nearly being killed saying the destruction of Optimus Prime is his right and will be done when HE chooses, as well as assuring Shockwave there is only HIS command. Megatron holds them off long enough for Optimus to stand and fight with him. Give the two a couple moments to save one another, before Megatron kills Shockwave, and Sentinel taken down by Optimus.

    Have the final words with Optimus and Sentinel, but have Sentinel attempt to shot Optimus with his rust gun, Optimus shooting first killing Sentinel, saying Ironhide can rest easy now.

    Megatron and Optimus shake hands and accept a truce, Megatron and select Decepticons and Autobots returnig to Cybertron to begin repairing the planet. Optimus will remain behind with select Autobots and Decepticons to repair Earth before departing for their homeworld with Optimus and Megatron continuing where they left off before the war but Optimus alert that it might not be over. Showing an odd metalic planet off in space headed for Cybertron. End Credits.

    Credit interlude with Wheelie and Brains emerging from the river saying "Whoa, what a ride!"

    Credit interlude with Starscreams lifeless body entering his spark chamber showing his spark lighting up again.
     
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  19. bellpeppers

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    Not kill Ironhide.
    Drop the sophomoric humor altogether.
    Better editing.
    Better continuity with the prevous 2 installments.
    Less slobber from Starscream.
    Not dump the Twins.
    A flying Autobot or 2.
     
  20. AutobotSkids

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    I loved the movies, but I would have:

    -Kept the Twins
    -Cut Shockwave (But kept the driller)
    -Given Dino a few more lines
    -Shown how Bumblebee gets captured

    How would I have done the last one? Simple. I would have Bumblebee drive down an alleyway with Lennox and Sam. They step out, Bee transforms, the wish him luck in the fight before running out of the shot. Bee watches them go, but you see Barricade's hand grab his shoulder from behind and yank him backwards.

    Something that simple would have worked for me.