Thanks for clearing that up Chris, it would make sense that a ship filled with spacebridge technology would warp out of time and space to crash much later on. As for the Primes thing...I will just keep pretending the original Primes just kinda left Cybertron forever to search for stars to destroy and everybody just kind of forgot about them...or something.. What? Whoahh. Disagree with you there. I know people are screaming left and right that there are plotholes everywhere, and I don't agree with that - but this is definitely something that is confusing at the least. And before somebody goes all 'you should have read the comics', I also don't think a movie should rely on accompanying fiction to explain a plotpoint. Expand on it maybe (like how in Star Trek 2009 they explain in much more detail about the exploding star in the future, etc.), but never explain. If it's important to the movie, it should be in the movie.
then why didnt sentinel even mention the allspark if that was part of the plan? why would megatron have SP's death faked when no one at that time even knew where the matrix was even at?
I propose y'all read the timeline. (Er, once the wiki starts working again. The attention DOTM is bringing down on it is hittin' the server hard.)
Was it 17, 000? I don't remember, must be confusing it with the Allspark date. Whatever. But I do agree with your second statement.
Ummmm....wasn't the matrix destroyed when they blew up the sun harvester in ROTF??? The Fallen snatched it from Prime right after his revival and placed it in the harvester...then the harvester was destroyed. Soooo....is this the matrix 2.0? BTW....wtf was up with Megatron chillin in a trash heap in the alley when Carley encounters him? If he was going to bring about a new era for his species, you'd think he would want to see it?
Yeah, the date is shown in the beginning of the movie when the humans find the harvester. The Allspark date comes from Banacheck, but I guess you already know that. Now THAT is not really a plothole, I think. It makes sense that the Matrix would be indestructible or something like that, and Prime just took it from the scene after the ROTF battle. Of course, sucks that they never actually show that, but come on, it's the Matrix! No way they're going to have that blown up forever
In the original script for ROTF, and in the adaptations, Prime recovers it. Further, the idea was supposed to be that after Sam went to "robot heaven", the Primes moved the AllSpark knowledge and power from his mind into the Matrix-dust, reforming it. That, essentially, turned it from a glorified ignition key into the knowledge-and-life-giving Matrix we're used to seeing from the past 25 years. So it seems that DOTM treated both those things as having "happened".
It was most likely a "need to know" thing. If Megatron told all of the 'Cons that Sentinel was a traitor in hiding, then the word would have gotten out. I mean look at Wheelie and Jetfire, they can't be the only 'Cons to switch sides. Yeah, why is Sentinel the only one in a stasis-lock vault? He knew was was going to happen.
I think the novel explained it better that Starscreamed liked to play games not hunt, and it went a little bit more in depth
at the beginning of the movie it was shot down with those missiles that formed the cool spiral thing...it was just as the ark was leaving cybertron.
That's what I am thinking. Starscream attacked the arc because he was not in on the plans. The sunharvester and the cube come up later as a result of Sentinel being lost. It would have taken the arc thousands of years to go through space. I imagine during the time, the cube and the sunharvester were other tools sought by Megatron to take over Cybertron.
