I am almost certain that it will work as TFC have their rep on the line. If this project crash , you can almost guarantee that TFC will disappear off the face of the planet.

 

I considered backing out of my RK pre-order, but I'll stick with them. Hopefully, I get this figure early as people are expecting and I can get an idea of how good the quality will be. If I like it, I'll just pre-order and POL the rest via BBTS.

 

how much are you guys paying with which online store?

automaton. 97.99$ + 9.99 ship. no fear of getting hit by customs.

 

$93.77 shipped from RK.

 

  I don't own either mold but I'll be trying adding the limbs to Bruticus / Superion if weight allows.

We're taking a risk with any 3rd party products, but it would take really balls to put out a total failure of a product. These figures are not coming out all at once and if the quality is not up to spec lots of people should walk away from completing the set. I'd rather see production delayed (well done FP) to correct a known flaw than receive a substandard product.

I can imagine that nerd rage would sink TFC's chances selling any further figures if this happens. I'm optimistic that we'll see a good product at the end, having read a lot of good feedback about the quality of previous work (roller aside) and do feel that the guys have what it take and can have our faith not to screw up.

 

Jeeezum Crow...so now we're looking at $100 per fig? Yeah, I'm out of the game on this one.

 

if you're buying with the intent to resell later, my advice to you is this. stock up on the first two.

For the initial releases, people will be hesatant, but once it gets to bot 3 or 4, and there are positive reviews, more and more people will start to want them. By that time the earlier ones will have dried up. as such, people will start getting desparate to be able to finish him, and have a completed Devy.

I'm considering getting an extra one and sitting on it in the hope of trading it for Shadow commander.

 

What if the individual figures themselves are great but the combination suffers. Mixed feelings since it won't be a "total failure of a product" but we all know why we're buying these.

 

So that's the plan then? Serial releases starting now and going until...? With no existing reviews or photos of the final project? Can we be sure that they'll actually get to finish without being shut down by Hasbro? I'm relatively new to this. I'm excited for, interested in, and by good fortune able to buy this product, but at the price I want to know everything I can going in.

 

Hasbro will not shut them down don't worry

 

The plan is a figure every two months.

 

Too rich for my blood. I'm out.

 

I saw it too... it's neat and all, but as far as "personality" I'm talking about how well Munitioner & Explorer depict and bring out the G1 characters of Swindle & Blast-off. Exgraver's sculpt(his head/face and such) doesn't have much "personality", and I don't even know if there's much "character" to bring out from G1 Scavenger anyway.

Buying an extra set of Munitioner/Explorer for less than $100 to add those G1 characters I can easily see many people doing. Spending $600 or more to have the G1 Constructicon characters standing beside Devastator himself??? That seems a bit of a stretch. I'm sure there will be a handful of people that do do it, but not to the extent of Munitioner/Explorer doublers.

 

that's true. I don't know about the face scruplt as we haven't seen it in close up, so Iguess we will see. Its too... little information to make any call so its just a risk I suppose

 

I was on the fence like a lot of you, but finally decided to bite the bullet. Reason being, this looks to be the most well engineered combiner I have seen with all the integrated combiner parts, Plus it looks to be voyager
based, so it'll be bigger than the traditional deluxe/scout combo. I have never seen any other version come close to this & I know I would not have the time or ability to design, let alone build/bash it myself. this will cost less than a good Devy custom, & have much better engineering & integration, though not as good a paintjob. I can swing $50 a month for a year for this (assuming prices stay the same & hook isn't $200...)

 

Quite true. FP had an easier time with Bruticus as all the tricky work of making a stable and secure combiner was practically already done for them. The preview pictures so far do seem to show that the torso bots are up to the job of supporting the arms and staying together.

Hercules having two bots in the torso should also give a decent centre of balance, but I do worry that the feet design will need something extra to really give stability. The original G1 design looks great but I understand easily falls backswards and I believe the crazy devvy legs emphasise that problem. While I love FP Bruticus and Superion, those figures are wearing freakin' clown sized shoes to stay stable!

We already have one leg bot previewed having no separate feet kibble, which is why I expect Mixmaster to be the last bot to be revealed. He is probably providing TFC with the most design challenges. While the 2nd arm bot simply needs to match Exgraver in relative size and density, the combiner will stand or fall (literally  ) on how well the legs shape up.

But with what, 2 months between figures (?) that does leave a fair amount of time to nail it rofl!

 

"Structor", as a leg, seems to be more stable than G1 Scrapper. The foot isn't as arched. The shovel is heavier and bigger. and rather than standing simply on the tips of the figure's arms as a heal, the arms double up and lie flatter along the ground, forming a larger footprint. I actually think in this configuration, his whole torso/shoulder area touches the ground, rather than just the arms and shovel.

And then there's a lateral hinge in Structor's torso that serves as a rocker ankle joint in combined mode, so that the foot can plant flat when the legs are spread, again ensuring that there's a large area of contact with the supporting surface.

These dudes are looking really damned sturdy and stable. TFClub's generally sticking with the basic G1 transformations here. they're not getting too intricate with the engineering, because they know that stability of the combined mode is top priority. The more little pieces, the more that suffers. The real test will be whether or not the Energon-style combiner ports will hold up well.

I'm confident, though, that TFC will stress-test these to within absolute certainty before release. They're sure to know that any perceived failure with this product will absolutely destroy their reputation when it comes to such an ambitious product. They've put in so much work so far, they don't want to see it all go to waste. I'm certain of that.

 

I hope it's ratchet joints. The feet can be crazy sturdy but if the leg swivel is weak, then he'll just be another titanium soundwave. Hopefully we'll be able to tell from the first one or two figure how that works.

 

At the very least, there'll be ratchet shoulders and knees, based on how the Energon combiner ports work. Then, with almost 100% certainty, ratchet hips on Heavy Labor (also Hercules' hips). Quite possibly also a ratcheted waist joint. Not much else is a necessity. The individual robots should be okay with friction swivels, and nothing else is particularly load-bearing in the combined form.

 

Anyone know how tall the combined will be yet? That certainly plays a factor into whether to get one of these for me....