Marina City Removed From DOTM

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by eagc7, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. Opticron Primal

    Opticron Primal Comin' up OOOs!

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    That's not really an excuse to go over budget. NO director wants to go over budget on a movie, even if any of his previous films did well. You don't want to take that risk.
     
  2. Regressor

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    Talk about missing teh POINT.
     
  3. deliciouspeter

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    That's what we, in the property management business, call a f-u location fee.
     
  4. Motor_Master

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    If a director cannot stay on or under budget, he won't be directing many movies, regardless of how much money a film makes. You cannot assume a movie will make money simply based on it's predecessors.

    Cutting one scene isn't going to kill this movie.

    Besides I'd rather see that $40,000+ the other cost of filming that scene go into the CGI.
     
  5. blackout501st

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    well shit, i don't blame bay one bit for dropping the scene. i do admit, it would have been wicked awesome to see in theaters, but i wouldn't want to pay 40 grand for a scene that probably would have ended up less than a few minutes long either! to hell with that!
     
  6. figsdad

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    im Pleased imagine the health and safety towards one stunt

    thats one stunt to many in my eyes....
     
  7. deliciouspeter

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    Bay's scenes are measured in seconds, not minutes. We did a shoot in our building and it was a month of building, taking over our entire lobby. ONE DAY of shooting, and the scene was literally 45 seconds long.
     
  8. Motor_Master

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    It was just $40,000 for a location fee, then you have to add on the cost of having the film crew come in, setup, film the scene, clean up and leave. My thought is the cost would be at least double, probably tripple.
     
  9. Bumblethumper

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    I think it has everything to do with budget. The article is quite clear that it was about money. They've had various cancellations and complications on this film, and other aspects of the film wound up costing more than they'd anticipated, so they decided this was one area where they could cut back. They didn't feel like being ripped off for something the film didn't really need.

    They certainly have a lot of money to spend, but they don't have unlimited funds. It's just one of those decisions where things have to be prioritised so they can have the money to put towards getting the stuff that matters.

    Tell that to James Cameron.

    And actually it's not unusual for movies to go over budget. Most enterprises of any sort go over budget at least somewhat. It's impossible to get the planning of these things down to a fine science because they're always different.

    In the end if a movie bombs and is horrible, no one cares that they came in on time and under budget. Critics aren't going to say, wow, what a horrible film, but at least he delivered on budget.
     
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    Word. I work on low budget films so I understand how essential it is to get as much value as you can out of every dollar, but if Bay really wanted to shoot that scene he would've, regardless of much they were asking in location fees. One thing the man is good at is negotiating and acquiring locations no one else can get, so I believe there was more to the scene being dropped than solely budget concerns. Many of the locations I've shot at charge a base rate of $10,000/day for projects budgeted over $1 million (which is pretty standard for a high end venue), so when it comes down to it we're talking about scrapping a scene over $30,000/day in location fees. If production were to shoot at said location for 30 days, that would add only $900,000 to a budget that most likely tops $200 million --- only 0.45% of the budget, not even a half percent. And of course, Bay being Bay and most venues wanting to be able to add a high profile production like TF3 to their dossier, I'm sure they would've worked with him to cut a deal that would've brought that number down significantly.

    It seems like this is more of a pride thing for Bay. He's always very quick to pound his chest and crow about how reliably he comes in on time and under budget, but as some of the other guys on the boards have pointed out, sometimes going a bit long and over budget is worth it in order to deliver a good film. If Bay ever delivers a good quality film, not a sloppy and loud one that does little more than ooze eye candy and bellow middle-school age humor, I'll take his boasting about his achievements in coming in under budget a bit more seriously.
     
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    Very true, I should rephrase my post to say that if a director doesn't have the confidence of the studio that their money will be handled wisely (i.e. not spending $40,000 for a dozen hammers), that director won't be directing many movies, regardless of how well a movie does.
     
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    Bay may have made a school boy error and actually told them the name of the movien that wanted to shoot - what sensible producers do is come up with a fake code name and book the locations under the fake name then they can all show up and film and they'd get charged a lot less.

    It's a big problem with big name directors and producers and sequels that if they tell them what they are doing everyone charges more.

    If you book your work & locations etc.. under alias you can get the normal price and not an over inflated one.

    Though sometimes it's handy to tell the truth if you can use your name to get a location that is otherwise hard to book.
     
  13. Emperor Zarak

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    That would have been soooooo epic to see
     
  14. Prime82

    Prime82 Optimus knows all

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    His focus is to be under budget, have the movie done on time(which is important) , make action sequences and explosions, and crazy comedy. And not be screwed over. lol. What about depth and a good story, hope TF3 has it
     
  15. Nelson

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    Actually, the production didn't go by TF3. They did have a code name for the production, they always have.

    Also, it's pretty hard to by anonymous when you're the talk of the town and you're blowing things left and right, and you have to show permit and insurance forms that shows the financial backers of your production.

    It was no "school boy" error. They just wanted to charge prime prices.