Another thing to consider is that the disposable income and active period of the average adult collector is far, far in excess of what the average "child consumer" would manage. Just think... I've been collecting TFs as an adult for 10 years now, and I'm still going... and I don't even want to think how much I've spent. The average kid collects TF's for what... 3 years? I probably buy 10 times what a kid does every year, or more. In that sense, as customers, a collector is worth much more than a kid, pound per pound. Though of course, kids are also the source of future collectors... can't forget that. Also very true. This logic is brought forward often, but I hasten to point out that it must be disregarded. Hasbro doesn't even follow their own "wisdom" often... how many gray/white jets with red detailing have they released in the last few years? How many tanks? How many SHITTY GRAY CARS?? The whole logic of "too many white cars" with Prowl/Jazz/Wheeljack is pretty bogus when you consider what Hasbro DOES release, and how often it goes wrong (hello shelfwarmers and shortpacked figures!). zmog
Agreed, not expensive although Hasbro is tied down to heaps of regulations, safety guidelines, etc etc etc. 3rd party plastic moulders from China are not. Which is I think is fine... because for example I don't believe for a minute that some kid dropping a re-issue Fort Max on himself or another kid and killing him is worth not having a Fort Max re-issue. How many f*cking fatalities were recording in the 80s by kids dropping Fort Maxes on themselves? Zero?? Yeah, that's pretty much where the death toll would be today too. And if not, rename him Darwin-Prime. Come on now, admit it. You have a shelf full of shitty grey cars, just like the rest of us!
You also have to throw in how waves of the Generations line only have four figures to them. So that also limits what they can release until marketing gets ideas of how to sell bigger waves to the retailers. Even with that restriction though they sometimes get really sneaky with how to get something in. Seaspray ended up as a hybrid figure under the movie brand but that hasn't stopped some collectors from using him as their Classics Seaspray. So yea I agree it might not be as much as we would like and it might not be as much as the design teams would like, but there is an attempt there to get things out that collectors would be interested in.
i dont care. i think when i have this i could stop collecting, masterpieces aside. but i dont think the head really looks like scavenger, who had one of the more memorable set of face features. and is that a decepticon symbol on his chest?
Pretty much awesome. Agreed. Already there, don't miss the bulk of the new stuff at all. Right and those four/five tiny pieces of tiny plastic from the phantom screamer set are 13 bucks. I think 600 dollars to own one stateside is a great underestimate.
MOTU Classics, like the original MOTU line before them, are built entirely on the idea of economy. Start with one of a small handful of base bodies, add the feet from one figure, with the hands of another character, slap on a head and perhaps some new accessories, and call it a new character. Pretty much Mattel's MO for their DC figure line, as well. The New Tooling: New Character ratio for either line is probably in the realm of 30%, being generous. Then there's the fact that each of those figures is probably molded in one colour, maybe two, and then painted, and each contains a total of maybe, 20-30 parts. A comparable-sized Transformer figure (Deluxe class) can contain over a hundred parts, and some have been molded in 4-5 different plastic colours (and thus, automatically at least twice as expensive to produce, since at least double the molds are required. Which are incredibly expensive to begin with). And then of course, all the engineering and design work required for a Transformer, compared to a basic action figure. And barring a few exceptions (like the Seekers), there's far, far less instances of mold reuse in Transformers. There are still a few Transformers who have yet to be repainted/remolded, and most others have only been redecoed once. And there's been a huge variety in molds, especially in the last several years. Meanwhile, for MOTU or DCU, three or four basic molds constitute the entire line.
I must say I have been waiting for something like this for years - id have prefered it to be an official takara release but who cares! All we need now is a full set of MP dinobots at a DECENT size - the thought of grinlock being smaller than prime still doesnt hold well with me
Whoa there! Let's get one thing at a time... These Constructicons are gonna be expensive enough. I really do hope they release them slowly. If so, I'm more likely to get them.
I never liked the G1 episode which pitted them against omega supreme - it opened up too many plot holes surrounding the origins of the constructicons (as well as depicting them on cybertron millions of years ago in their earth style alt modes lol). For me the constructicons nemesis has - and always will be - the dinobots
Yeah I maybe crazy but I if this thing ends up being as huge and awesome as it appears its going to be, its going to be one pricey son of a bitch. I've been waiting for ever for a Devastator like this. I contemplated commissioning a Devastator this seems to be a better alternative and a cheaper one...even though its still going to cost a shit load.
^^ Surprisingly, with nearly everyone weighing in here and declaring they've already written blank checks in their minds for this... not yet. Something I don't understand... Hasbro is out of the development business of quality combiner gestalts and we're getting stuff like PCC combiners (which are great in their own right but not like G1 combiners) and we're told it is a development price point and also the fact that they have to market their product at kids... fine. But let's say worldwide there are 1,000 rabid Transformers fans willing to buy this... and it's a stretch but let's say it's the Perfect Devastator in every conceivable way. With a price tag of $1000 a pop and 1000 people buying it... would hasbro cover their costs and then some if the 'bot cost $500,000 to develop and manufacture?
