New Generations Thrust

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by hschell0002, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Blitz.

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    put me down for one ...if hasbro UK dont f*ck it up
     
  2. Edgewise

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    ahem... you said:

    "That's on the Fan Club, not Hasbro or Takara though" certainly sounded to me that you blamed the fan club and did not blame Hasbro or Takara at all.


    How, specifically, have they made "huge deals" about such stuff in the past?

    If this is about the nature of an exclusive and not about retaining value, then the club saying they won't discount stuff is not relevant, since that is about retaining value, not about the nature of the exclusive.

    'Securing' the characters/molds from Hasbro? Using the term 'securing' seems to imply the club making Hasbro stay away from the characters/molds in the future. That's never been the case. They get 'approved' by Hasbro. Hasbro won't re-make the same item, but the same mold, same characters, different(but similar) paint jobs, and different (but similar remolds) are still possible fair game.... as Generations Thrust is.

    Destroying the molds? I'm not sure if that is confirmed fact. However, Generations Thrust is not using the Botcon 2007 Thrust mold. So guess what? That just shows that Botcon 2007 Thrust is still an exclusive!

    If that asterisk of Hasbro changing their mind wasn't there all the time, it should have been there once the Target movie scouts showed up three years ago, and one was much like BC2005 Fallback as Generations Thrust is to BC2007 Thrust

    Again, Generations Thrust is not the same paint job or same re-mold. Evidently, that's where Hasbro nitpicks the definition of exclusive.



    A Hasbro P/CP possible? Yes, I guess that's possible, with a different paint job and different new head.

    Ratchet from Towline with the same changes? No, not with the same changes. With different changes, possible.

    Dion? Yes. Spark?, Yes.

    Again, Gen. Thrust isn't the first such case of this: BC'05 Fallback vs. Movie Crosshairs or BC Japan Barbearian vs. BW Neo Survive

    Or beyond Convention exclusives, Hasbro made mass retail versions of Skywarp & Dirge PVCs Or how about Chase Sixbuilder vs. Universe Micromaster Devastator?

    By your definition of exclusive, yes, the club is unable to maintain exclusivity. But it's Hasbro, not the club, making those calls. I hope my examples above could help clarify to you what Hasbro & Takara consider to be 'not an infringement' of exclusivity. The line has been brushed up against very closely many times before.
     
  3. Pravus Prime

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    Amazing how you people clearly seem to care more about my dislike of exclusives to mass release then I do. I stated that it was a minor irritant, I was questioned, I elaborated. I'm done. As I've said, I'm glad people are getting a chance at Thrust, I hope we see Dirge and Thundercracker as well.

    With that, I'm done with this thread. Go back to harping on the complaints about a chrome cockpit.
     
  4. Valkysas

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    I was the only one that complained about that, and it's a minor, minor complaint. I'm buying this thing, and loving it. I may also lick it. I will lick it.

    and 2007 customizer class overkill vs. universe special edition overkill.
     
  5. airfox

    airfox TF: Cybertronian Wars!

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    I'm surprised after all this time, that "Botcon Seekers Threads" still get this many replies. Wow.

    Generations Thrust (not Classics Thrust, since that's the Botcon '07 release ;) ) is looking good. I like it a lot more than the Henkei release, and I'm kinda wishing I hadn't bought the Henkei one, but what's done it's done.

    Owning both Botcon Thrust and Henkei Thrust, I don't feel any urge to get the Generations one, but seeing as I also like it better than the Henkei version, and it'll end up being the cheapest release yet, I guess I may bite once I see it.

    Count yourself lucky then that you never bought (I'm assuming) the Convention Exclusive reissues of Hoist and Trailbreaker or the eHobby reissues of Ratchet and Ironhide. ;) 

    -airfox
     
  6. cuters

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    i,ll get this as soon as i see it hope dirge see,s mass release too
     
  7. Ray Kremer

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    Well now that's true, in fact it did kind of bother me that the Botcon trio was almost slavish to the decos the G1 versions had while the Hasbro trio they were supposed to go alongside had decos more loosely "inspired" by G1 and were all the better for it.