wait, what?

TFA catches loads of flack* as does Armada/Energon/Cybertron** weirdly pretty much everybody likes BW, or at least respects what it was trying to do.

i grew up with g1 and it means a lot to me - i have the DVDs and i own some spectacularly overpriced toys from that era, so i'm not anti-G1 by any stretch of the imagination, but i'll happily point out it's many very obvious deficiencies. the fact is, people like different stuff. don't worry about it.



*from deeply misguided indduals***

**because it sucks balls.***

***see?

 

Not robot heavy, but into robot character...isn't this a contradiction?

 

How so?

I think by the movie not being robot heavy we're going to get less actual robots, but gain gain some robot character development.

 

I hope to god he's right. Plus, fewer humans, please...

 

There's enough interesting robots in the roster we have already. If Ironhide, Sideswipe, and Jolt get as much development as Alex and Simmons, I'm all for this new direction.

 

I think what he was trying to say was that TF3 is going to have a smaller cast of transformers, and therefor more time to showcase them as characters.

Or he's full of shit. I donno.

 

Less Robots with Transformers... sounds fun.

 

More characterisation would be an excellent thing IMO. I'd gladly see less characters on screen for that.

 

I'm all for 'less is more' in TF3.

 

I'm not believing a damn thing until a full lenth trailer is out.

 

I hope Bay learns 13 protoforms and Constructicon clones doesn't make for an engaging battle.

 

Less robot heavy??? FUCK THAT!!!!

 

More character development? So Bay decided to wait to the third movie to do what he should have been doing in the first one? Just spare us all the trouble and just make another shitty movie; stick to what you're good at.

 

What we need is more robot onscreen time, where they actually talk and contribute to their own characters and the story as a whole. ROTF got it exactly right with Jetfire. We need more characters to contribute like Jetfire did.

Now, if "less robot-heavy" means not adding a whole bunch of unnamed robots, instead adding just a few who we get to learn about, then yes, full steam ahead.

 

Well... Since this maybe the last Bayformers Movie, maybe he will do a good job for the first time, it just sucks that it takes a 3rd Bayformers movies for the transformers to at last get character development.
But seriously.... Michael Bay said less explosions, where is Michael bay and what have you done with him!
And also landscape sounds like Cybertron to me but I hope Unicron doesn't come in the picture to eat Cybertron.

 

Yikes, wow, really, haven't we learned by now not to get crazy about these types of reports? As Prime told Sam: "Calm down, Calm down" The grain of salt thing works too.
I'm in the group that will wait for a trailer or two before I decide if Bay and Company have given us a waste of film or a decent robot movie, who knows maybe the 3rd time will be the charm!! Besides all the witchin' and complaining isn't going to change things..  

 

wow

that does not sound as good as he makes it seem

 

Good point!!

 

I agree. Robots I don't have a reason to care about, I don't care about. Two distant robots doing hand-to-hand combat means nothing. Pretty but empty experience.

The idea should be that these robots have character. They're people, not pixels.

Finally, I'm concerned. I was on the fence with TF1, but went and saw it (twice) in the theater because it was a truly good movie. I unhesitatingly went to see TF2 (once) on the strength of the first movie. Mistake. I probably won't be going to see TF3 in theater, a decision based on the weakness of the previous movie. I'm worried that TF3 might turn out to be good like TF1, but others like me avoid it after TF2. Sure, TF2 had great sales figures, but that can be explained by the quality of the first movie. If TF3 tanks because TF2 kind of sucked, the franchise could suffer. "Look, TF2 had great sales... let's do more of that!" Um. No.

 

Sounds promising if we get more personality out of the existing bots. How they interact on earth, and the obvious space rammifications of the cooler landscapes...

Cybertron, Mars, etc. let alone the other possibilits of obstacle use due to conversion.

Here's hoping 3 fills in some outlying story parts left too. Which would make sense as well to build to a crescendo ending.
So if we get bot interactions, and more character development alongside decepticons whatever plan, followed by some sort of Sam subplot, that'd be about on par to what we've been getting, while expanding the universe created a bit deeper. I'd be all for that. It fits the basic need of events, from the human perspective, to defining these robot characters and their personalities and histories, to potentially expanding largely to showcase a massive more climatic tf4 while still being a self contained entertaining movie.

Storywise, that's about all we could expect for 3 more or less though. Since 1 was the how the war started on earth in the modern day, and 2 was the tf history with earth.

Now we're at the tf interactions on earth, and how they live now. TF2 even had a stall tactic to save that it seems, having the one government agent only being authed to see prime. Comparatively for something like this to really have an effect on the audience they'll need a comparison point of how they lived on their own home though. So that opens the creative expressiveness to different possibilities, or least reflecting the different atmospheres they can adapt to live in.
Mikaela and her bike shop, the base, the decepticons, soundwave, among any other ideas of personality reflection or interest.

I am curious what the sam bit will be this time. As mainstays they've created a few I wonder if they'll keep or ignore.
Sam's mom with some form of inebriation. (Alcohol, pot brownies)
Mojo's Adventure, (from pain killers and broken bones, to games of domination... What's next for him?)
Sam's role expanded in the war yet again. (First the glasses, then the remnants of the cube's information in his head and whatever else it did, what'll happen to him now?)
Simmons and his colorful underwear. (Or at least acknowledge from sam or mikaela, "please god not this time." or something.)
Sexy Mikaela shots.
Pivotal moment in Sam's life. (getting a car, first day of college, things pivotal in a guys life.)

Those are about the only things I can think of as mainstays so far, and they are all easy things to work around or use and in total barely fill 20 minutes.